Daniel Cole

This is sure a heated and lengthy discussion about what are really just copies. They're not award pieces, they are copies, or in harsher words Fakes, regardless of whether or not a recipient wore any of these pieces. Who knows. Is the point here to document all the various copies of the PLM out there? So von der Linde may have had a second piece, or third piece or pimped a different varient for each day of the week from each medals manufacturer, to me I really only care about the one placed around his neck when awarded. What was it, a Wagner or a Friedlander, pie or baroque, silver gilt or gold? Anything else is a copy. Happy New Year.

And Ernst Ju"ngers from his Museum.

I concur that using photos in today's world is sketchy for proof and verification. What if someone of the appropriate age, dressed up in an authentic WWII uniform, put on my Steinhauer & Luck PLM, or any other version in question was photographed in B/W and posted here. That could/would fuel a debate on its authenticty, regardless that the photo was a total fraud. In Germany the Ernst Junger museum sent me a photo of his PLM on display there. It is clearly a 1957 S&L piece, not a pre-1918 award piece. This raises the question where is the original, Was the swapped?, did he have 2 (or more), who knows. Two many variables these days, so best to go on pure facts.

Just curious if "Der Rittmeister" knew what he had, or was it just a 12 ribbon bar?

There is a book I have called "With the German Guns: Four Years on the Western Front " by Herbert Sulzbach. The author, a Jew was an officer in the German Army in WW1 and a later was in the British Army in WWII. He had an amazing life. You can still get the book at Amazon. Check out these links: http://www.london.diplo.de/Vertretung/lond...are__Seite.html For a picture of his decorations: http://www.royalpioneercorps.co.uk/rpc/his..._germanguns.htm

I know of Brits, but I've never heard of Americans. That would interesting to know.

I have seen minis in displays of other minis in the uniform shop when I was in the navy. So they are out there, but I concur, only the full size is worn.

Guaranteed to be post 1945!

What I find interesting about this grouping which is amazing to say the least is this, The medal seems to be an early silver gilted piece that most likely came on a pin rather than the next ribbon with the pad of stars. My second cousin Thomas Croft Neibaur was awarded the Medal of Honor in WWI. It was presented to him in February of 1918 by General Pershing. Neibaur's actual medal is engraved: T.C. Neibaur Co. M 167th Inf. By Gen. Pershing Feb. 9, 1919 Point being I have never seen a MOH with only an engraved name, nothing else. That seems odd to me. I'll check that group photo more closely when I get home, but I think Neibaur is in that picture too. Another thing is the Montenegro Silvery Bravey Medal originally came on a trifold ribbon. This one has a different ribbon. Loman is buried at Arlington. This is the 3rd MOH Neimann has sold in the past month.

What Reuss decoration would be the likely candidate?

It would seem to me a novice, that the chance of 2 cut out pilots badges (Roth and Keller), each engraved with a similar PLM is way too coincidental. Also the spelling error in Roth versus Ro"th, that would be as big a mistake in German as Smith or Smyth in English.

The medals may be real, the bar just is not authentic, a reproduction bar with real medals. I made one of von Richtofen once. The Crow Order and Chna /SWA was something I didn't know. Thanks.

The medals may be real, the bar just is not authentic, a reproduction bar with real medals. I made one of von Richtofen once.

My guess is it is a put together because of the RAO ahead of the decorations with Swords. I would think it should come afterwards.

Congressional Medal of Honor recipient Ed Freeman of Boise died Wednesday - From the Idaho Statesman "Congressional Medal of Honor recipient Ed Freeman of Boise died Wednesday morning, according to a friend of the Freeman family. He was 80 years old. Freeman, who was born in November of 1927 in Mississippi, received the Medal of Honor for heroic actions he took as an Army helicopter pilot on Nov. 14, 1965, in Vietnam. As a flight leader and second in command of a 16-helicopter lift unit, he supported a heavily engaged infantry battalion at Landing Zone X-Ray in the la Drang Valley. He flew 14 separate rescue missions, providing life-saving evacuation of an estimated 30 seriously wounded soldiers. Freeman has lived in Idaho for the past 30 years." Ed or "Too Tall" was featured in the book "We Were Soldiers Once And Young" and the film with Mel Gibson "We Were Soldiers". I met Ed on occasion and he was a humble, class act. Dan

Does that bar sy "Parts" or is that just old eyes?

I thought I had a sure bet on that one. Damn, Good thing I didn't make a wager.

Maybe it was Thomas Gotschalk from Wetten Das fame!

Definately a Princely Hohenzollern

Unbelieveable! What can one say.

This photo show PVT Thomas Neibaur on the left and another unknown MOH recipient. I think it it Harold Irving Johnston, but I am not certain. I have a good scan of this photo and when enlarged the MOH is at the neck of the unidentifed soldier. Hard to see, turned on edge, but it is there. Anyone else have ideas who this might be if not Johnston? The medals are French Medaille Militaire, Montenegro Silver Bravery Medal, Croix de Guerre avec 2 Palmes, Interallied Victory medal.

Live or Memorex? Ebay item: 230248946192 He has a good story....................., but is it real?

Interesting story on Deutsche Welle about the last surviving memeber (Philipp Freiherr von Boeselager) of the plot to kill Hitler on 20 Juli 1944. I think he was an RK holder. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3306896,00.html

This picture of Ringel?

We had a chaplain In USS Horne (CG-30) who had the bronze star with V from service in Vietnam. He was awarded it in his prior life as a foot soldier, before becoming a naval officer, chaplain.