Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) A nice cross-over group for me, already shown elsewhere on the forum.I present it here to solicit (= beg) help and thoughts.Captain Mikhail Ivanovitch GuzovRed Banner 385124Red Star 1923384Red Star 3000624Military Merit Medal 1458581Victory GermanyVictory JapanMongolian "We Won" 54271 Edited July 15, 2008 by Ed_Haynes
Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Author Posted August 29, 2006 All is as expected, except for the nunbering on the older Red Star (1923384), which strikes these novice eyes as unusual. (Sorry for the lousy scan - depth of field.)
Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Author Posted August 29, 2006 Mongolian "We Won" (number -- 54271 -- matches to the medal)
Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Author Posted August 29, 2006 Research? Not yet. Has been requested. Watch this space . . . .Any help in the interin? Pretty please . . . .
Gerd Becker Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Lovely group, Ed. No worries about the number on the Red Star, its a MZPP product, they are this way. I am not sure about the orders book though. I am curious, what the experts have to say.Gerd
Gerd Becker Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 After looking again at this group, i am quite sure, its okay. The orders book was issued with the Red Star Nr. 1.923.384 and the Long Service Awards (Red Star, ORB) were added later. Now, his first Red Star should be a "real" award and the rest are his Long-Service awards. Gerd
Ed_Haynes Posted August 30, 2006 Author Posted August 30, 2006 Thanks, Gerd.Was also hoping for some help in reading the documents (even just his name) and in seeing what information could be gleaned there. It being the first of the semester, my colleague in Russian history is too busy to glance these documents over and I was thinking I might get some assistance here.
Paul L Murphy Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,They are to Captain Mikhail Ivanovitch Tuzov (and if that is 100% correct I will be very pleased with the progress of my Russian lessons even though I never do my homework !)Cheers,Paul
Paul L Murphy Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Actually, that might be Tuzob, I cannot decide whether it is a cyrillic B or V. God I hate handwriting in foreign languages !
Ed_Haynes Posted August 30, 2006 Author Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,They are to Captain Mikhail Ivanovitch Tuzov (and if that is 100% correct I will be very pleased with the progress of my Russian lessons even though I never do my homework !)Cheers,PaulThanks, Paul. I know, I know. Hard enough for me to keep the Hindi and Urdu alive, much less tiny bits of Arabic and Pashto, and a more recent desire and ongoing project to learn both Mongolian (both scripts) and Russian!Do your homework on this forum? Tell your teacher that.
Paul L Murphy Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,I have found myself far more willing to sit down with a dictionary and slave my way through some gramata translations rather than make a serious effort at understanding the accusative case. My teacher is not impressed but I think it is perfectly reasonable behaviour ! Paul
Alfred Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,I am sure the book and the entries are okay. The two last awards are 99% later added long service awards.The style of writing of the first two entries fits with the date. See picture below.Research of the first Red Star should be interesting.regardsAndreas
Paul R Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 I love it, as well. I hope that you decide to get it researched.
Ed_Haynes Posted August 30, 2006 Author Posted August 30, 2006 The research request has already been sent . . . watch this space . . . .
Guest Rick Research Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 Mikhail Ivanovich Guzov.MMM for long service 3.11.44, 1st Red Star circa 1945 for something. 2nd one for Long Service 1948/49 (I have one quite close in a group I didn't research knowing it was a "15" but date will probably be the same as yours-- his Award Records Card that came back was filled out BEFORE mine, so no clue on that date). Trd banner falls in a gap in my numbers data base-- either 23.5.52 or 20.4.53 for long service.Orders Book shows privileges from November 1944 and was filled out 1 July 1946.Victory Over Germany as Captain of Intendance Branch, on 9.9.45 and is signed by Major General of I/S "Tsybin," as Commander of Base Staff of 36th Army.Victory Over Japan as plain "Captain" 9.3.46 signed by Major General "Zamakhaev" as Coamander of Satff of 36th Army.Mongolian VOJ filled in by Satff of Cadres 36th Army CO Colonel "Lyvov.So what you have here is an ARMY LEVEL GHQ type. COULD be a paymaster... could be the codes officer. You'll find out. Tsybin has a nice portrait over at Steen Ammentorp's place:http://www.generals.dk/general/Tsibin/Serg...viet_Union.htmlWhile he only has a 1981 death date for Ivan Vasilievich Zamakhaev.So here's some new position date for you too, Steen!
Steen Ammentorp Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 Two more pieces for the puzzle!Btw. Major-General Ivan Vasilevich Zamakhaev was CO 94th RD 30.04.1943- end of war.Kind RegardsSteen AmmentorpThe Generals of World War II
Ed_Haynes Posted December 5, 2006 Author Posted December 5, 2006 Brief e-mail from researcher: "The group is a fake."More to come.
Gerd Becker Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Damn I hope, at least parts of it are okay like the Medalbar and one of the Red Stars maybe.
Ed_Haynes Posted December 19, 2006 Author Posted December 19, 2006 Record card that turned up, part 1:
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