Herr General Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The second one looks like the Colonial ; Ordre de Nichan-Iftikhar and the third as the Italian Crownorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hi,It looks like the third one could be either the order of St Maurice & St Lazarus (not the crown order)The last one could be the spanish Order of Isabella d'Catholica.Kind regards,Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 My best guesses:#1: France, Legion d'Honneur#2: Turkey, Order of Mejidie#3: Italy, Order of St. Lazarus#4: Japanese (?)#5: Spain, Order of Isabella the Catholic/Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 What is interesting in this pic is that the orders and medals are mounted in the spanish style.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 They are probably worn by a Spaniard or Portuguese (note the ribbon frames!), hence my types:1. probably France: LoH2. Spain: Orden 'Merito agricola'3. Spain: Orden Alfonso X el Sabio ? (the central medallion looks too small)4. ???5. Spain: Orden Isabel la CatolicaBut I'm not sure - the quality is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Here's te total carte de visite ( scanned add 150 dpi ), Thank you all for your opinions. Could it be a French Diplomat?The photo house is Rochat, Rue de L'Hopital Bourbonne Haute Marne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Well, I'm not an expert i Spanish orders, but I'm pretty certain they are not suspended by a star and a moon like it's shown on the photo... Below is the Turkish Order of Mejidie (from Liverpool Medals)/Mike Edited January 27, 2007 by Great Dane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John5813 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 My Guess:1. Legion of Honor2. Turkish Order of the Medjidie3. Italian Order of Sts. Maurice and Lazurus4. British Crimea Medal5. Spanish Order of Isabella the Catholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) I'm not sure that it's the legion of honneur, as it seems to have way to much points on the cross....The legion d'honneur had 8, 2 on east, 2 on north etc etcBut this cross appears to have also points midway of it.The man appears to wear it in the first place, either he's french, but he doesn't look french, or he's portugese which would be consistent with the ribbon frames which are clasps, then the question would be what kind of portugese ODM would look like this?But yes, they're indeed mounted in the portugese way, with the clasps.If the 4th one would be the crimea medal, then should be there a clasp on the medal going in at about 45 decrees over the ribbon.Great dane, the second medal appears to have a star and moon suspender.kind regards,Jacky Edited January 28, 2007 by Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 I was wrong Please disregard my previous post - the frames made me think they were Spanish awards. Thanks for posting the full photo. Isn't his a French naval uniform of mid-19th century? I agree with John5813 about the medals. I think too it was from the Crimean war, which would justify this set of awards. And yes - the crescent IS seen on medal #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Jacky,Remember the Legion d'Honneur has 5 cross arms, not 4. In my opinion it is clearly a LdH...I agree that medal #4 is the medal for the Crimean War. It also fits the timeframe for someone who participated in that war in the 1850s and then later received some orders (the Legion d'Honneur is the post-1870 model)./Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) . Edited January 28, 2007 by Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thank you all for your reactions. Turns out to be an interesting photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 If the 4th one would be the crimea medal, then should be there a clasp on the medal going in at about 45 decrees over the ribbon.No, lots of medals were issued without clasps, especially to the Navy - the British clasps were Alma, Balaklava, Inkerman, and Sebastopol. There was an unoffical Fench clasp "Mer d'Azoff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 There was an unoffical Fench clasp "Mer d'Azoff".Indeed, quite right and the French being specialists in creating unofficial bars apparently made a few more :MER D?AZOFF or MER D?AZOF or merely AZOFF, as mentioned,TRAKTIR also found as TRACKTIR TCHERNAIA MALAKOF MAMELON VERT KYNBURN also found as KINNBURN and EUPATORIA ... there may be more.I regret not having any of these so no pictures I'm afraid. I wouldn't mind someone starting an illustrated thread Cheers,Hendrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 Thanks all for the reactions. You keep surprising me with your knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 These look like:first item more likely Belgian Crown--Agree with Jacky ...note spiked, rather than rounded wreathlike, appearance of inter cross arm elementsMedjidjiePapal Latern Cross-note rounded center and cross arm terminationsCrimea or BalticIsabella CatholicI'm no expert but the uniform appears more Belgian than French. Maybe Portugese or Spanish with pasador bar suspensions??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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