Jos Le Conté Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 A few times I've seen pics of Navy people wearing Luftwaffe badges ... or Luftwaffe with Navy badges.I'm interested in pics like these and it would be nice to see some .Anyone has any to share by chance ?Jos.
Paul R Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 I would like to see these as well. Were the pilots of the observation planes that were flown from the larger ships manned by LW pilots?
Gordon Williamson Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 Almost always its the Observer badge you see.
Martin W Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 They were probably members of Luftwaffenkomando See,the Naval Air Arm.Reinhard Hardegen spent 4 years in Naval Aviation.The Naval Air Arm was dispanded in 1939 after the invasion of Poland and Goering declared "Every thing that flies belongs to me".Hardegen and his fellow pilots were then assigned to the Ubootwaffe.Regards,Martin.
John R Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) From my collection. Future U-boat Captain. Edited March 3, 2007 by John Robinson
John R Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 To add a little more to this thread, most of these observer badges are first pattern (the thin type) Junckers. Based on this, documentation, and the period of time this badge was issued, I would say many of the naval observers were in Legion Condor. It is not unusual to expect the Spanish version of the DKIG also in wear in these cases.Like the post above, many of these officers went into the U-boat arm, usually making it quickly to Captain of a U-boat, when the Luftwaffe took over all the planes in 1939. The book Operation Drumbeat is a good reference for this transition.
John R Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 (edited) Also from my collection, a future U-boat Captain while in Legion Condor. He was a naval aviation observer at this time. Edited March 3, 2007 by John Robinson
John R Posted March 3, 2007 Posted March 3, 2007 Same officer at his wedding. It is the Observer badge and Spanish Cross that he is wearing.
Martin W Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 John,that must be an extemely rare cap tally.Very nice.Martin.
Jos Le Conté Posted March 4, 2007 Author Posted March 4, 2007 Very interesting pics sofar..,thanks..Gordon, would it be possible to post a close-up of the bullion Beobachter where we might see some detail ?Just to see how it was made..Jos.
John R Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 John,that must be an extemely rare cap tally.Very nice.Martin.I have seen two in the last few years and I keep an eye out for these things. Kai Winkler had one until two weeks ago that a friend of mine in Kiel just bought when I pointed it out to him. Mine I bought from a US antique dealer a while back--spotted on line by a German friend who alerted me to it. So I guess it is fairly rare. Many collectors are not sure what this is, so that is helpful if you want one. They think it is Luftwaffe and it is not of course. It helps to be in a "circle" of muetzenbander collectors who are on the watch for certain ones and know what you are looking for--well, we know this, the more friends you make on these forums with similar interests the easier it is to find what you want. John
John R Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 In image #10, this officer is wearing his navy long service ribbon and czech occupation ribbons below which is the Spanish awarded Spanish Cross, then below that is the Observer badge, and on his right side is the German Spanish Cross. The photo is a bit blurry when I expanded it for posting. John
Gordon Williamson Posted March 4, 2007 Posted March 4, 2007 Very interesting pics sofar..,thanks..Gordon, would it be possible to post a close-up of the bullion Beobachter where we might see some detail ?Just to see how it was made..Jos.Jos,This is about as big as I can get it without losing all detail.
Paul C Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 The 1936 Kriegmarine Ranklists has a section on the Luftwaffe, very interesting. If you are interested the the ranklists just PM me.
Simon Orchard Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 Thought this might be of interest as we're on the subject. A small grouping to a LW seaplane pilot that served onboard the heavy cruiser Hipper. Unfortunately there wasn't an HSF in the group.
François SAEZ Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 I think it isKapit?nleutnant Thomsen, Rolf * 06.05.1915 Berlin + 26.03.2003 Bonn Ritterkreuz am: 04.01.1945 als: Kapit?nleutnant Funktion: Kommandant U-1202 852. Eichenlaub am: 29.04.1945 als Kapit?nleutnant Kommandant U-1202 Bundeswehr: Von 05.11.1955 bis 31.03.1972 Zuletzt: Flottillenadmiral
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