turtle Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 They´re really nice and I think I should try to acquire one, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwyz Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Here is a photo of my large Cross. About 197 mm x 197 mm (7 3/4" x 7 3/4") and 2 KG. I have it framed to hang on the wall. I believe these were used on large memorials to the war. Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yes, they came in different sizes and were constructed for memorials at cemeteries. There was also a version with a light bulb inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) My newest addition: Rudolf Probst was born in 1889, fulfilled his military service with an artillery unit from 1907 to 1910 and served in WWI from 1914 to 1918. His last rank was Feuerwerker (ordnance nco). His only other award was the Militär-Jubiläumskreuz in 1908. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4r-Jubil%C3%A4umskreuz http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/JK1908.htm Edited January 7, 2013 by turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwyz Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hallo Lambert, Probst's Urkunde is a nice one, especially with a 1940 date. The latest date I have is 17 Jul 1940. I have noticed that for many of 'your men' you have given a small biography or personal history. Have these certificates come to you with this information or have you researched each man? If so, how are you researching — Ancestry, or ? Just curious because I would like to do this also. It always adds so much more to an object. Cheers, Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hallo Lambert, Probst's Urkunde is a nice one, especially with a 1940 date. The latest date I have is 17 Jul 1940. I have noticed that for many of 'your men' you have given a small biography or personal history. Have these certificates come to you with this information or have you researched each man? If so, how are you researching — Ancestry, or ? Just curious because I would like to do this also. It always adds so much more to an object. Cheers, Gar Hello! Most of the documents came with other accompanying documents like their Militärpaß or Wehrpaß, so I was able to compile those information given above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Some new Ehrenkreuz documents have arrived!! This one was awared on the 09 october 1934 and is now my earliest example. Edited January 30, 2013 by turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Finally I got one from Hamburg and another from Berlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Something to revive this topic: These two documents belonged to a Karl Wolf born 27.11.1900. He served in the army from the 11.09.1918 till 21.11.1918 with the replacement unit of Inf. Rgt. 170. In 1934 he applied for his Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer (Cross of Honor for Non-Combatants). Unfortunately I don´t have his award document Edited March 7, 2014 by turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hi, has anyone seen one without any maker mark at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Hi Chris, yes they do exsist, I believe any such with a blank rear were all made post W.W.2 for German W.W.1 veterans who needed replacement crosses for worn out or lost pieces. Kevin in Deva. Edited March 7, 2014 by Kev in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hi Chris, yes they do exsist, I believe any such with a blank rear were all made post W.W.2 for German W.W.1 veterans who needed replacement crosses for worn out or lost pieces. Kevin in Deva. HI, what is the post WW2 theory based on? I have a small group with a blank back, but it seems to have been together since the early 30s, unmounted full length ribbons etc. Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hi Chris, if my memory serves me corectly, a long time back, I seem to remember a comment in R.L.'s book " A Collectors Guide to Third Reich Militaria." saying that the Ehrenkreuz had not been faked but was still in production / official manufactured for veterans who needed replacements, Have you also checked on "BayoSwedes" Website with regards them? Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Nice document Turtle ! My earliest is from 27th October 1934 , You have the earliest I seen so far Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Nice document Turtle ! My earliest is from 27th October 1934 , You have the earliest I seen so far Christer Thanks! I wonder when the earliest regular awards took place?! I´ve read in an old newspaper, that the application forms where only available in late september / early october, so somewhere in september 1934 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) I read somewhere that Hermann Göring was awarded hes cross 1st Sept 1934 and Adolf Hitler 4th sept , but I don¨t think they had to apply... So I think an early October award is very early for a normal application. And here is a link to the best Hinderburg Cross site on the net ( only in Deutsch) http://www.weltkriegs-ehrenkreuz.de Christer Edited March 14, 2014 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Yeah, I know this site, it´s great! A little correction to my statement above: The application forms were available in August and the first shipment of citations and awards were announced for Sept. / Oct. I also think, that a late September / early October date would be the earliest to expect, at least for the rank an file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Something I´ve totally forgotten to show : An Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer for Lorenz Kordus, he was a Fahrstuhlführer (lift operator) and a Kriegerinnerungsmedaille Bulgarien for the same man. Maybe he worked a one of the bigger hotels in Berlin!? Edited December 31, 2014 by turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 what a fantastic Ehrenkreuz site! The photos are fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 On 2/19/2008 at 17:34, christerd said: Unusual Award-paper for Honor Cross What is so strange about this paper? Well its issued by the German Consulate in Apenrade ,Hmm to a Karl Hellweg in Sonderburg and he is to get an Honor cross for fighters , and hes military duty is shown in his "milit?rpass" so whats unusual about that? Sonderburg ! That?s in Denmark !! But in 1914-1918 Sonderburg belonged to Germany (Schleswig-Holstein) but after a public vote in 1920 it was decided that it would belong to Denmark. So this guy lived in Gemany 1918 and in Denmark 1935 but still got the Honorcross. Interesting, its the only paper to a Danish ( well, ex german) I seen Christer Lets try this then... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwyz Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hello Chris, Thanks for posting this information. The Ehrenkreuz has always fascinated me. I have Ehrekreuz certificates for Toronto, Canada, New York City, USA and Madrid, Spain and I would sure like to add this one to my collection! Hint, hint! Others are known for England, Norway, Sweden, Bern, Switzerland and Columbia, South America and I'm sure there must be other locations as well. Cheers, Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Auld Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 On 1/3/2013 at 23:26, Schwyz said: Here is a photo of my large Cross. About 197 mm x 197 mm (7 3/4" x 7 3/4") and 2 KG. I have it framed to hang on the wall. I believe these were used on large memorials to the war. Gar What a nice item! Did not know they existed! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) @Chris Boonzaier Very nice document grouping, I really like these Ehrenkreuz documents from abroad! Do you know more about Mr. Jessen? Edited February 4, 2016 by turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 hours ago, turtle said: @Chris Boonzaier Very nice document grouping, I really like these Ehrenkreuz documents from abroad! Do you know more about Mr. Jessen? Hi, nope, thats all I have :-) 14 hours ago, Schwyz said: Hello Chris, Thanks for posting this information. The Ehrenkreuz has always fascinated me. I have Ehrekreuz certificates for Toronto, Canada, New York City, USA and Madrid, Spain and I would sure like to add this one to my collection! Hint, hint! Others are known for England, Norway, Sweden, Bern, Switzerland and Columbia, South America and I'm sure there must be other locations as well. Cheers, Gary Hi, I have one from the embassy in London to a German working there as a waiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffz. Rohleder Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Here some Urkunden for the Hindenburg Cross Kriegsteilnehmer: Frontkämpfer: Approval Letter for the Witwen Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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