Hindenburg Cross Types

[turtle]

They´re really nice and I think I should try to acquire one, too!

[Schwyz]

Here is a photo of my large Cross. About 197 mm x 197 mm (7 3/4" x 7 3/4") and 2 KG.

I have it framed to hang on the wall.

I believe these were used on large memorials to the war.

Gar

[turtle]

Yes, they came in different sizes and were constructed for memorials at cemeteries. There was also a version with a light bulb inside.

[turtle]

My newest addition:

Rudolf Probst was born in 1889, fulfilled his military service with an artillery unit from 1907 to 1910 and served in WWI from 1914 to 1918. His last rank was Feuerwerker (ordnance nco). His only other award was the Militär-Jubiläumskreuz in 1908.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4r-Jubil%C3%A4umskreuz

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/JK1908.htm

Edited January 7, 2013 by turtle

[Schwyz]

Hallo Lambert,

Probst's Urkunde is a nice one, especially with a 1940 date. The latest date I have is 17 Jul 1940.

I have noticed that for many of 'your men' you have given a small biography or personal history. Have these certificates come to you with this information or have you researched each man? If so, how are you researching — Ancestry, or ?

Just curious because I would like to do this also. It always adds so much more to an object.

Cheers,

Gar

[turtle]

Hallo Lambert,

Probst's Urkunde is a nice one, especially with a 1940 date. The latest date I have is 17 Jul 1940.

I have noticed that for many of 'your men' you have given a small biography or personal history. Have these certificates come to you with this information or have you researched each man? If so, how are you researching — Ancestry, or ?

Just curious because I would like to do this also. It always adds so much more to an object.

Cheers,

Gar

Hello!

Most of the documents came with other accompanying documents like their Militärpaß or Wehrpaß, so I was able to compile those information given above.

[turtle]

Some new Ehrenkreuz documents have arrived!!

This one was awared on the 09 october 1934 and is now my earliest example.

Edited January 30, 2013 by turtle

[turtle]

Finally I got one from Hamburg and another from Berlin.

[turtle]

Something to revive this topic:

These two documents belonged to a Karl Wolf born 27.11.1900. He served in the army from the 11.09.1918 till 21.11.1918 with the replacement unit of Inf. Rgt. 170. In 1934 he applied for his Ehrenkreuz für Kriegsteilnehmer (Cross of Honor for Non-Combatants).

Unfortunately I don´t have his award document

Edited March 7, 2014 by turtle

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

has anyone seen one without any maker mark at all?

[Kev in Deva]

Hi Chris, yes they do exsist, I believe any such with a blank rear were all made post W.W.2

for German W.W.1 veterans who needed replacement crosses for worn out or lost pieces.

Kevin in Deva.

Edited March 7, 2014 by Kev in Deva

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi Chris, yes they do exsist, I believe any such with a blank rear were all made post W.W.2

for German W.W.1 veterans who needed replacement crosses for worn out or lost pieces.

Kevin in Deva.

HI,

what is the post WW2 theory based on?

I have a small group with a blank back, but it seems to have been together since the early 30s, unmounted full length ribbons etc.

Best

Chris

[Kev in Deva]

Hi Chris,

if my memory serves me corectly, a long time back, I seem to remember a comment in

R.L.'s book " A Collectors Guide to Third Reich Militaria."

saying that the Ehrenkreuz had not been faked but was still in production / official manufactured

for veterans who needed replacements,

Have you also checked on "BayoSwedes" Website with regards them?

Kevin in Deva.

[christerd]

Nice document Turtle !

My earliest is from 27th October 1934 , You have the earliest I seen so far

Christer

[turtle]

Nice document Turtle !

My earliest is from 27th October 1934 , You have the earliest I seen so far

Christer

Thanks! I wonder when the earliest regular awards took place?! I´ve read in an old newspaper, that the application forms where only available in late september / early october, so somewhere in september 1934 I think.

[christerd]

I read somewhere that Hermann Göring was awarded hes cross 1st Sept 1934 and Adolf Hitler 4th sept , but I don¨t think they

had to apply...

So I think an early October award is very early for a normal application.

And here is a link to the best Hinderburg Cross site on the net ( only in Deutsch)

http://www.weltkriegs-ehrenkreuz.de

Christer

Edited March 14, 2014 by christerd

[turtle]

Yeah, I know this site, it´s great! A little correction to my statement above: The application forms were available in August and the first shipment of citations and awards were announced for Sept. / Oct.

I also think, that a late September / early October date would be the earliest to expect, at least for the rank an file.

[turtle]

Something I´ve totally forgotten to show : An Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer for Lorenz Kordus, he was a Fahrstuhlführer (lift operator) and a Kriegerinnerungsmedaille Bulgarien for the same man.

Maybe he worked a one of the bigger hotels in Berlin!?

Edited December 31, 2014 by turtle

[Ulsterman]

what a fantastic Ehrenkreuz site! The photos are fantastic.

[Chris Boonzaier]

On 2/19/2008 at 17:34, christerd said:

Unusual Award-paper for Honor Cross

 

What is so strange about this paper? Well its issued by the German Consulate in Apenrade ,Hmm to a Karl Hellweg in Sonderburg

and he is to get an Honor cross for fighters , and hes military duty is shown in his "milit?rpass" so whats unusual about that?

 

Sonderburg ! That?s in Denmark !! But in 1914-1918 Sonderburg belonged to Germany (Schleswig-Holstein) but after a

public vote in 1920 it was decided that it would belong to Denmark.

 

So this guy lived in Gemany 1918 and in Denmark 1935 but still got the Honorcross.

 

Interesting, its the only paper to a Danish ( well, ex german) I seen

 

Christer

 

 

 

Lets try this then... ;-)

[Schwyz]

Hello Chris,

Thanks for posting this information.  The Ehrenkreuz has always fascinated me.

I have Ehrekreuz certificates for Toronto, Canada, New York City, USA and Madrid, Spain and I would sure like to add this one to my collection!  Hint, hint!

Others are known for England, Norway, Sweden, Bern, Switzerland and Columbia, South America and I'm sure there must be other locations as well.

Cheers, Gary

[Jock Auld]

On 1/3/2013 at 23:26, Schwyz said:

Here is a photo of my large Cross. About 197 mm x 197 mm (7 3/4" x 7 3/4") and 2 KG.

 

I have it framed to hang on the wall.

 

I believe these were used on large memorials to the war.

 

Gar

 

 

 

 

What a nice item!  Did not know they existed!

Cheers

[turtle]

@Chris Boonzaier

Very nice document grouping, I really like these Ehrenkreuz documents from abroad! Do you know more about Mr. Jessen?

Edited February 4, 2016 by turtle

[Chris Boonzaier]

7 hours ago, turtle said:

@Chris Boonzaier

Very nice document grouping, I really like these Ehrenkreuz documents from abroad! Do you know more about Mr. Jessen?

Hi, nope, thats all I have :-)

14 hours ago, Schwyz said:

Hello Chris,

Thanks for posting this information.  The Ehrenkreuz has always fascinated me.

I have Ehrekreuz certificates for Toronto, Canada, New York City, USA and Madrid, Spain and I would sure like to add this one to my collection!  Hint, hint!

Others are known for England, Norway, Sweden, Bern, Switzerland and Columbia, South America and I'm sure there must be other locations as well.

Cheers, Gary

Hi,

I have one from the embassy in London to a German working there as a waiter.

[Uffz. Rohleder]

Here some Urkunden for the Hindenburg Cross

Kriegsteilnehmer:

 

Frontkämpfer:

Approval Letter for the Witwen Cross