Christian Zulus Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Bob,I can't find any logic in Markov's behaviour, because he should be interested to collect the money after the auction - it's his buyers premium .Usually you should get after the auction an e-mail, saying: "Congratulations, you have won the bid, please transfer USD XXXXX to the bank account XXXXX."Maybe one of these Russian collectors paid even more for your items - after the end of the auction -, then you ? So your items might be already in Moscow or St. Petersburg .As we know, some GMIC-members already had some bad experience with Markov ... Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I am not going to comment on other members' experience with Dmitry Markov, but will give you some details of me latest encounter with him.I wanted to buy some items from his web site (that was one week prior to the auction). So he reserved items for me and we agreed that he would bring them to the auction preview, so I can pick them up. He did, I paid and the transaction was finalized without any issues or delays. So I am totally satisfied with most recent delaing with him.To Dmitry's credit I also would like to say that items I picked up were priced very fairly and were a bit below market price (I suspect it's been a while since he updated the prices), but he didn't make a big deal out of this and honored what his web side said. William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 After more than a dozen emails with no reply (only reply was when I sent an email to one of his auction partners who forwarded my email to him with me on CC) I went down the route of calling. Only to be stonewalled by an answering machine and no response when I spoke in a message.I'm very, very disappointed in this. I'm going to give it one last shot before drawing a line underneath this and moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This is VERY disturbing. It seems the only moderately trustworthy dealers with large stocks are those we can't afford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 OhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhK. let me get this straight. THREE MONTHS have gone byREPEATED communications with no result? You've hung in there trying TWO MONTHS more than I would have.It amazes me, here in our 21st century, that there are "Big Names" who think they can get AWAY with this... as if the internet does not exist... as if their reputations--self-destroyed--are NOT going to affect salesand as if the rest of us, seeing this sort of thing, are NOT going to be broadcastingUnder No Circumstances Ever Deal Withwarnings forever after?Grotesque, unfathomable incompetence and stupidity cannot even begin to "explain" such a situation. One is left with no rational explanation other than that the consignor(s) have been primly informed the high bidder was a "no pay" and...alternative saleshave been made.But this IS the 21st centrury, and there IS an internet.Screw one of us, and we all see it happen.Under No Circumstances Ever Deal With flags raised. At least you haven't sent money and got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 So I sent an email from a different email address... this time with read receipt confirmation turned on. My email was read... and I received a reply essentially that things would be taken care of in a few days time. Roughly two weeks later still no news so again I sent an email with read receipt. I see my email has been read yet no response.In the meantime new items have been put on his website so clearly Markov has time to take care of business.This is over for me now. Never again with this dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Very very disturbing. Yes, another dealer crossed off the list, I fear . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Isn't it obvious? Someone (or Someone"s") lost the bid or forgot to bid ... offered more money and he sold it to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Lang Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I hope, I hope that what Darrel suspects wouldn't have happened.Things like that, can "kill" an auction house, especially now, in the days of fast communication.Elmar Lang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I hope, I hope that what Darrel suspects wouldn't have happened.Things like that, can "kill" an auction house, especially now, in the days of fast communication.Elmar LangYes, in the absence of ANY communication (perhaps the most damning aspect of this whole sad episode), we can only expect the worst, and respond accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I hope, I hope that what Darrel suspects wouldn't have happened.Things like that, can "kill" an auction house, especially now, in the days of fast communication.Elmar LangPeople do wierd things when it comes to money ... heck ... you even se this type of behavior on the forums and Dealers sites all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Lang Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) I think that some dealers are too much confident in the "new market" of super-rich buyers from Eastern Europe and they seem forgetting "normal" buyers from the rest of the world.I understand the disappointment...Elmar lang Edited April 26, 2008 by Elmar Lang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Very very disturbing. Yes, another dealer crossed off the list, I fear . . . .Dear Ed,that might be point, but which dealers we still have: Igor, Alex and .... Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Personally, as far as regular "dealers" are concerned, it is now down to the list of two that you suggest. Some collector dealers often have nice things, butv that is getting inferquent. High-profile auction attract the sorts of financially well-endowed bidders with whom mere mortals cannot compete. If the research channels were more alive, I'd say it is all down to research now. One of the three reesarchers I have used just gave it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 It's a real pity that Alexei stepped out of the game although I guess also with him supply-demand would take effect and prices go to unreachable levels. Nevertheless, fair dealers are now difficult to find and to be honest it was also just outright fun to click on NB's site at least once a day to see if some new treasure had arrived Fortunately for me Soviet has not been much more than a diversion (difficult to remain disciplined) from my main interests of Mongolian / Albanian but when the pickings get slim and you have some time and the internet on your hand you start to search and find new areas which start to interest you. Perhaps I'll leave Soviet for what it is and look more towards Yemen, Uganda or North Korea (the more obscure the better ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 ...Perhaps I'll leave Soviet for what it is and look more towards Yemen, Uganda or North Korea (the more obscure the better ) Hum, Bob, don't tell anyone, but North Korea has been on collectors' radars for a while now Stick to your first two suggestions.Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hum, Bob, don't tell anyone, but North Korea has been on collectors' radars for a while now Stick to your first two suggestions.MarcYep - but it's not (yet) reached the stage of $100 a barrel oil that Mongolian, Soviet, etc. have reached... I'm fearful of NK collecting though... Yemen / Uganda are much more contained areas of collecting I have the impression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yep - but it's not (yet) reached the stage of $100 a barrel oil that Mongolian, Soviet, etc. have reached... I'm fearful of NK collecting though... Yemen / Uganda are much more contained areas of collecting I have the impression Let's simply say, less Chinese entrepreneurship in those last 2 Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 progress at last!I put some of Markov's business partners on copy of my emails to him. All of a sudden details materialized and my items were found. I've made payment and should now get my items any day... I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 We keep our fingers crossed for you .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 :jumping: :rock on: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Items receivedPutting his business partners on copy (several times ) must have done the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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