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I'm posting this pic courtesy of Francois Saez.

When posted on another forum, this pic created something of a heated (and rather speculative) debate around the (nationality of) the pilot depicted. What are we, in fact, looking at? :rolleyes:

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Now the back who may (or may not) answer questions like: "Is the pilot Kroatian or German?"

Translation provided by our friend Rick Research

Zum Andenken an


von Deinem



(place obscured by glue), 22.10.44

In memory of


from your

(this is either LITERALLY "young" or son in the sense of "kid")


(place obscured), 22.10.44

Why write in German if you are Croatian?

* To note/look at the guy in back with his shoulder strap falling off

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I believe the guy is German. He's an officer candidate and wearing what looks like a private purchase leather jacket with the Croatian shield on the wrong sleeve, and no Croatian pilot badge. The shield could have been an honorary award rather than one denoting where he came from.

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Great photos Francois. Can you identify the cufftitle in the top photo of post #7?



It looks like the officer version, of the "Kriegsberichter der Luftwaffe" cufftitle. The officer's camera is peeking out of his trouser pocket.


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Think bottomline is that the pilot just added the non-luftwaffe Croation cloth badge to his non-luftwaffe regulation jacket the way he liked it..

It also looks like he's wearing a L of Lehr Geschwader on his shoulderstraps ?

Nice and rare pics !


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