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My father got this nice bar a few minutes ago as a telephon bidder at Kube's auction. I heard a possible wearer has yet been identified but I wasn't told who this was. Thanks in advance for a name and thanks to all that didn't place a bid...

:rolleyes:

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o.k., as I see it is SOLD to Your Father I can come with the name:

Korvettenkapit?n Eugen Schoch, born 1879

With the right tools 5 minutes to ID him and 10 more to prove it.

DOA 08

Navy 14

Navy 18

Roth Baden 14-18

Markus Bodeux phantastic Navy Verordnungsblatt work in the German SDA

Best regards

Daniel

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Daniel, Rick - thousand thanks for that great information. :blush:

Bernd - Z?hringers have gone up in prices for the last years. I stupid ordinary three place bar with BZL3bX goes nowadays for about 500,- Euro, so I think these 1.600,- Euro were absolutely normal for this one. Though, we wouldn't have paid much more...

Paul - not really "non combatant", it's just a peace time award to an officer (sure, though "non combatant" anyway, when there's no war when awarded!).

In Baden, swords were given only in war, for war merit. Two grades of Z?hringer L?we order were worn together if one has swords and the other doesn't, no matter what classes they are - and the oaks don't mind. E.g. a 3bX could be worn with a peace time grandcross, as a war time Grandcross with swords could be worn with a 3b. It's mostly about ranks and literally anything is possible - though they're of course hard to get, those medal bars with two... :love:

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Paul - not really "non combatant", it's just a peace time award to an officer (sure, though "non combatant" anyway, when there's no war when awarded!).

In Baden, swords were given only in war, for war merit. Two grades of Z?hringer L?we order were worn together if one has swords and the other doesn't, no matter what classes they are - and the oaks don't mind. E.g. a 3bX could be worn with a peace time grandcross, as a war time Grandcross with swords could be worn with a 3b. It's mostly about ranks and literally anything is possible - though they're of course hard to get, those medal bars with two... :love:

Thank you for explaining this to me. I have never seen the two worn together.

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Given the :speechless::speechless::speechless: prices being paid for far too many COMMON things, that sort of price for an identifiable BZ3aX--691 on the Roll, so rarer than a Pour le Merite--group (no WW2 service that I could find-- surprising) isn't too bad.

In 10 years.... :rolleyes::speechless1:

I only have an award document for one, poor me.

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