Ribbon bars from Saxony

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the reverse

Christophe

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I bought this beautiful ribbon bar with SH3, SV3bX, SA3bX EK2. It will be at home next week, I hope.

Christophe

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Today I was in a local show and I have found new ribbon bars. Have a llok. The first one with Hohenzollern can't be ID (toomuch possibilities) but for the second one, if my memories is ok, it come from I.R. Nr. 102.

Regards

Christophe

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Another one

Christophe

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To bring some life in this thread, i deceided to show this ribbon bar i own for years.

This is not a common combination and i still don't know what the last ribbon is. Maybe a wrong ribbon was ussed for another decoration.

Regards

Alex

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Hi Alex,

It seems that this bar belonged to Max Immelmann and the last ribbon should be the TWM. Ihope you still have it in your collection !

Nice bar

Christophe

[jaba1914]

Yes i have it. I came to the same result. The last two ribbons are later Attached with a piece of cardboard.

If the last ribbon should Be for the osm. War Medal it is the wrong One but makes sense.

Regards

Alex

Edited May 2, 2012 by jaba1914

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Wow. Nothing else. Just wow.

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Hi everybody,

I have shown some of this bar separatly. here is the good topic to show them.

First bar

Major Rudolf Uth

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Ribbon bar of Hauptmann Franz Blohm

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Ribbon bar of Major Otto Schmidt

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Ribbon bar of Oberstleutnant Alfred Heygendorff

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Ribbon bar of Major Hermann Keil

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Ribbon bar of OSA Dr Maximillian Woempner

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Ribbon bar of Oberstleutnant Hans Meischner

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Ribbon bar of Rittmeister Walter von Ehrenkrook

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Ribbon bar of Major Albert Lütgen

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Hauptmann Ottmar Deißner

[webr55]

According to O'Connor, Immelmann got his Anhalt Friedrich eight days before his death. It would have been a very short time for him to wear this bar.

Also, why is his Imtiaz medal not on the bar?

I just wonder if this bar was maybe made by an admirer.

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Good point, but I remember seeing in the past a ribbon bar "belonged to" Immelmann and sold by Hermann Historica. I can't remember when and inwhich catalog it has been sold. The construction and the back seems to be good to my eyes but we need more close up.

Here is another small trapezoidal ribbon bar

Christophe

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Another ribbon bar but unfortunaly the owner is unknown. Does ayone knows if the Oldenburg rolls has been done for the OK2 and OK1 ?

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another ribbon bars (from same man I guess)

[jaba1914]

I don't think that Immelmann ever worn this medal bar in this combination but i don't have any doubts that it is a period bar.

Originally this bar was made for 7 ribbons not for 9 and later it was enlarged

You can see that all ribbons are sewn with the same wire except the last three.

My oppinion is, that on the place where now the ribbon for Anhalt Friedrich cross is, once the ribbon for the Hamburg HK was. When it was expanded (nor really proffesional) the ribbons were inverted.

Regards

Alex

Edited May 3, 2012 by jaba1914

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What Deuelle means is this letter from Immelmann to his mother where he discribed the bar. You can see that he used only the crossed swords for the HOH.

Regards

Alex

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WOW!

This is most spectacular!

In this letter, Immelmann thanks someone for an "Ordensschnalle" which that someone apparently made for him, but says he wanted only a "Feld-Ordensschnalle" (small ribbon bar).

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