GM1 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Looks like a very late example, not likely by Buls (possibly Wolfers or Heremans) - look at the super flat lion. Thanks for the aclaration. I thought it was Buls because of similarity on page 115 of the Book: 175 ans de l'Ordre Léopold & les Ordres Nationeaux Belge by Cmd. Pat Van Hoorebeeke (2007, ISBN 2-87051-040-3) GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM1 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Second one is most likely by Fernand Heremans, definitely not Fonson. Thanks a lot! Best regards, GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 That's also a very nice one ! Officer model. Sometimes the rozette has also the golden line woven in it. 2 Military versions of my collection: 1 with "A"-palm and another with crossed swords for veterans, both of WW1. Note that the crossed swords version is only French, while most of them are bilingual (because most of them were at lease second promotion, conceded after 1952). Can anybody identify the manufactures? Best regards, GM1 You have some very nice pieces GM1, congrats! One is a French made example, 2nd Empire period but maker is not entirely apparent (few name do come to mind though). The other one looks like early F. Heremans, perhaps even J. Heremans. As to your ribbons with gold stripes, be very carefull since those are quite rare and often 'added' in order to increase the value. Only very keen eye can tell the difference and usually not with 100% accuracy. We can buy a lot of them in Belgium (probably made in the East anyway) currently (and I've been seeing them around for the last 10-15 years, in the past it was a rarity on the marked (even in Belgium) . Look for tarnished gold threads (gilding on those will often go dark with age), also ribbons that are very purple do not look good to my eye. Your crosses are of different manufacturers and periods, having identical looking ribbons is not a good sign (not in my humble opinion anyway). I've been 'stung' by those in the past in the Commander level - that did not come cheap either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM1 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You have some very nice pieces GM1, congrats! One is a French made example, 2nd Empire period but maker is not entirely apparent (few name do come to mind though). The other one looks like early F. Heremans, perhaps even J. Heremans. As to your ribbons with gold stripes, be very carefull since those are quite rare and often 'added' in order to increase the value. Only very keen eye can tell the difference and usually not with 100% accuracy. We can buy a lot of them in Belgium (probably made in the East anyway) currently (and I've been seeing them around for the last 10-15 years, in the past it was a rarity on the marked (even in Belgium) . Look for tarnished gold threads (gilding on those will often go dark with age), also ribbons that are very purple do not look good to my eye. Your crosses are of different manufacturers and periods, having identical looking ribbons is not a good sign (not in my humble opinion anyway). I've been 'stung' by those in the past in the Commander level - that did not come cheap either. Great aclaration! Indeed I always thought that the ribbons were looking too new. Can you date the jewels approximately? I have a knight Order Leopold II with golden ribbon, which I suppose is more authentic, as you almost can't see the woven. Although off-topic i'll post it here. Many thanks! GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM1 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 As promised, the knight Order Leopold II with golden stripe. Any remarks more than welcome! Best regards, GM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hey, Your LII Knight looks certainly good. I like the tarnished stripe, even though it does not appear gold on this side. Looks like Fisch probably after WW2. Nice example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi, I just added to my Leopold collection this very nice GO Star by Wolfers I would like your opinion Stars made by Wolfers are usually with crowned Lions and the red enamel is translucent with specific "texture" uderneth This one has non crowned Lion and plain red darkish enamel Graf look also to http://www.seniso.com/gallerie/ordre-de-leopold-750-uros/ Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hi Guy, Thank you for the info. I know for a long time this unmarked Leopold Star on Robert Seniso site He reduced the price twice for the last two years - from 900 Euros It has similar features with the one I bought from Willy -especially the front central medalion The diference is that my Star has the Wolfers plaque on the back an the pin shape is like the pins on Wolfers Stars I have seen before. I am not expert on Leopold Order - just a collector who decided last year to focus on Leopold Order. Regards Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I just received this fine pre 1952 Officer's badge of the Order. Any idea as to maker and approximate decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 If I am not mistaken the "I" on the revesre is indicative of Wolfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 BTW, I know it looks a bit "silvery" for an officer's badge, but in reality, it is of a nice "brassy - old gold" colour, no idea why the scanner made it look so pale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC89 Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Someone told me once that the "I" was used during the reign of Leopold I (1831-1865) and Albert I (1909-1934) (not sure during the reign of Leopold II (1865-1909). So if this is true your officer's medal is pre-1934. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Someone told me once that the "I" was used during the reign of Leopold I (1831-1865) and Albert I (1909-1934) (not sure during the reign of Leopold II (1865-1909). So if this is true your officer's medal is pre-1934. Pre 1934? Wow, I'm even more satisfied with my purchase. Thanks! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hi Guys, This is my last addition to my L1 collection Best Grafhttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-12584-0-12172500-1380509633.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-12584-0-45120300-1380509550.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 see here à luxure knight military division Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hi Guy, Thank you for showing the Military devision. I have seen this cross on the top cover (and also inside) of the '175 Jaar Leopoldsorde & de Belgische Nationale Orden" In this book is stated that the maker is unknown. Is Wolfers suspected of making it? It is made similar as the Luxury Models of France Legion of Honour Do you think the Luxary L1 could be French made? Here are two Commanders made by the French Maker Bertrand Best Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Dear Graf The maker is unknown, we presume it is a French manifacture The cross on the cover of that book is mine Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Guy! The detailing on that Order is simply gorgeous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Hi Guy, I also suspected that it was made by fFrench Maker It is similar design as the "Cent Gardes" of French LOH Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 This was Restoration Period Here is the Second Empire Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Hi Guy, Those are better pictures I took picture of the crowns of the Knigt Class and the Commander ( French marks for Silver -Boar head and Maker AB&Co)) You can see the similarities in crowns, which can be more proof that all those Luxary made L1 Orders could by French maker(s) Regards Graf Edited October 16, 2013 by Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Dear Graf, We presume that the maker is French and not Belgian Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_deploige Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 For ending the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka f Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 My latest came with a box of a retailer in Antwerp; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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