Robin Lumsden Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 Same guy ........................ different headgear !!
Tony Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Did anyone see this http://www.ebay.de/itm/Seltenes-Bild-und-Feldpost-Flammenwerfer-Abt-Sturmtruppe-Verdun-/281362558531?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=0Mfz7Xu57oWFt2A3Isbrn9ka1kQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Looking at the bids, the winning bidder was obviously prepared to pay more. Thomas, it looks like it was another Germany only auction. Tony
Thomas W Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Did anyone see this http://www.ebay.de/itm/Seltenes-Bild-und-Feldpost-Flammenwerfer-Abt-Sturmtruppe-Verdun-/281362558531?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=0Mfz7Xu57oWFt2A3Isbrn9ka1kQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc Looking at the bids, the winning bidder was obviously prepared to pay more. Thomas, it looks like it was another Germany only auction. Tony Yes, no sales to Americans. That's okay. My collecting days are winding down. I still buy must-haves, but I've got enough German flamethrower pioneers. The dealer got very confused about the units. He said the flamethrower pioneer wasa member of a "close-combat detachment," but the cards had the stamps of close-combat batteries, the 77 mm field pieces mounted on smaller wheels and used as antitank guns. The close-combat batteries existed for only four months, since machine guns worked better at close range and field or foot artillery at longer ranges.
Gilles Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Thomas, you write: Badge in the middle of the sleeve cuff, flamethrower operators. Badge below the left elbow, flamethrower operators of Sturmbataillon Nr. 5 (Rohr). Badge at the top of the sleeve cuff, machine gunner. And badge overlapping the cuff and sewn halfway on the sleeve, grenade-launcher crew. If I take from your interesting theory of the four skull positions the one exemple of the Sturmbataillon Rohr, how do you then explain the period picture shown on #482750? Regards Gilles #482750
Thomas W Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Thomas, you write: Badge in the middle of the sleeve cuff, flamethrower operators. Badge below the left elbow, flamethrower operators of Sturmbataillon Nr. 5 (Rohr). Badge at the top of the sleeve cuff, machine gunner. And badge overlapping the cuff and sewn halfway on the sleeve, grenade-launcher crew. If I take from your interesting theory of the four skull positions the one exemple of the Sturmbataillon Rohr, how do you then explain the period picture shown on #482750? Regards Gilles #482750 The Rohr badge was unofficially adopted in February of 1918. It was worn below the left elbow. If a new flamethrower pioneer entered the battalion after February of 1918, his membership in the battalion would take precedence over his status as a flamethrower pioneer, so he would wear the Roher badge in its proper postion. That would require him to attach the flamethrower badge below the Rohr badge. Or he could have already been a member of the battalion when the Rphr badge was adopted. It would've been an easy thing for him to change the position of his flamethrower badge. I have three photos of the same flamethrower pioneer wearing his sleeve badge in three different positions. Edited July 1, 2014 by Thomas W
Hoss Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 Robin Recent ebay Altes Stoffabzeichen, U-Boot Truppe, 1. Weltkrieg, Kampfschwimmer Abzeichen.
Robin Lumsden Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 That's a very nice early TK swimmer! There are very few of them around. The HJ certainly wore these in the 1930s, so I'm interested in the U-Boat connection.
Hoss Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Hi Robin blast we're all missing neat gear it seems $50 it went for mate. Eric
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 That's a very nice early TK swimmer! There are very few of them around. The HJ certainly wore these in the 1930s, so I'm interested in the U-Boat connection. They still exist today... some swiming associations still award thwem
Robin Lumsden Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 $50 was a steal !!! These old chain-stitchers are very rare. I believe they came with qualification docs like the one shown here. The modern woven ones (with inscription) go for about $1 on eBay.
Jock Auld Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 A small TK, possibly Braunschweiger? I wasn't far from there today! The gent threw it in since it had a broken bone, it is small, aprox 6 by 6mm. Jock
Robin Lumsden Posted August 14, 2014 Author Posted August 14, 2014 Yes ............ looks like a BW Inf. or Hussar stickpin. Pity about the bone.
Robin Lumsden Posted September 3, 2014 Author Posted September 3, 2014 Yet another oddity. Doesn't fit with known examples of Flammenwerfer, Kampfwagen, Freikorps or Reichsheer/Reichswehr. Who knows ??
Hoss Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 Robin is that a photo from your collection? Eric
Robin Lumsden Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Eric. No. Edited September 5, 2014 by Robin Lumsden
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 The shoulder strap does not look to be Garde Pionier though? There is a Cypher or number on it.
Hoss Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Robin is that a photo from your collection? Eric Robin I've a feeling in me water its photoshop you gents are the experts. Eric
Robin Lumsden Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Eric. I think you're right. The shaded area to the left of the face is very odd. Photo lifted from eBay.
Sergeant 08 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Already the youth prefered skulls. Edited September 19, 2014 by Sergeant 08
Naxos Posted September 23, 2014 Posted September 23, 2014 saw this and immediately thought of you Robin
The Prussian Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Yet another oddity. Doesn't fit with known examples of Flammenwerfer, Kampfwagen, Freikorps or Reichsheer/Reichswehr. Who knows ?? Hello! According to the pockets upon the jacket, I assume, it´s a Freikorps unit. Do you have a close-up of the shoulder strap, the cocarde and the collar-button, please? Edited September 24, 2014 by The Prussian
Robin Lumsden Posted September 24, 2014 Author Posted September 24, 2014 Love the shoe !! Prussian ................... sorry. No better pix.
Kornel R. Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 I wouldn't mind to take these shoes off ... Lena Olin for example .... .... but back to Earth - can anyone tell me if 12. Kompanie of 3. Garde Pionier Bataillon , was a part of Flammenwerfer Truppen ? best regards Kornel
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