KDVR Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thank you very much. Do you also know the period of the production of this type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avadski Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thank you very much. Do you also know the period of the production of this type? I think Weiss did them throughout entire war. At the end there was a slightly different version produced with the belt buckle fully enameled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Guys, what can you say about this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The swords are attached unusually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avadski Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Hello, hmmm...strange piece. Godet used to produce crosses with both medallion enameled, but this one looks like home-enameled (or at least repaired). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Agreed, post 167 looks to be home renovation on a chipped piece. best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hello, hmmm...strange piece. Godet used to produce crosses with both medallion enameled, but this one looks like home-enameled (or at least repaired). More pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Got this one today and understand it is a MVK3XC. Am I correct? It is marked GH at the backside between the crown and swords. regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Yes, MVK3XK. "GH" is for the maker Gebruder Hemmerle, München. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Hello Gents! That's my MVK3XK from bavarian medal bar. It looks a little bit uncommon in details. I think it's a production of the late period of WWI. What do you think about the maker of this one? Thanks in advance :beer: Edited November 13, 2011 by Sergio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sergio Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 The crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Here's an interesting one for review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 The center medallion has the cypher inlaid versus applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Another pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavaria Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Hello @Sergio: Your MVK shown in post #173-179 is a piece produced after 1918. It has no details form one of the official 5 Bavarian makers (Deschler, Hemmerle, Lauer, Leser and Weiss). It should be from the 1920/30ies, but these types are often found (also on genuine bars). So stil a nice item. @dond: It´s the same with your MVK 2nd class with crown and swords. Also a piece after 1918. The "L" is very specific. Unfortunatelly I can´t tell you the maker, but Godet, Steinhauer & Lück, Sedlaczek used to produced them for veteran´s demand after 1918. Also a beautiful piece! Kind regars Rudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Thanks Rudi. I think the quality speaks back to the Imperial times compared to most of the junk that was pumped out post war. I do agree though that it is post war so the maker must have been one of the house jewelers imo. I will have to look in the catalogs when I get time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Hello @Sergio: Your MVK shown in post #173-179 is a piece produced after 1918. It has no details form one of the official 5 Bavarian makers (Deschler, Hemmerle, Lauer, Leser and Weiss). It should be from the 1920/30ies, but these types are often found (also on genuine bars). So stil a nice item. ... Kind regars Rudi Hallo Rudi! Thank you very much for your reply However I still can't imagine that such "ugly" piece is not a result of hurried production of the end of War for mass awarding, but post-WWI production for sale to veterans at their expense Best regards Sergei. Edited November 14, 2011 by Sergio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 However I still can't imagine that such "ugly" piece is not a result of hurried production of the end of War for mass awarding, but post-WWI production for sale to veterans at their expense Alternately, there was still a modicum of control and inspection when you sell to the army. After the war when you are selling direct to the wearer this control falls away... its like retail today... many people are willing to accept bad quality if the price is right. Some of the worst quality EK2s are 1920s-30s pieces, made cheap and sold cheap. Lets not forget... many, many, many vets did not have a lot to spend in that period.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Alternately, there was still a modicum of control and inspection when you sell to the army. After the war when you are selling direct to the wearer this control falls away... its like retail today... many people are willing to accept bad quality if the price is right. Some of the worst quality EK2s are 1920s-30s pieces, made cheap and sold cheap. Lets not forget... many, many, many vets did not have a lot to spend in that period.... Thank you Chris :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeagleorder Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just to add something new to this thread which i don't believe has been mentioned before. A bavarian MVK 2nd class with swords and crown mounted above it on the ribbon, not attached to the medal itself. Is this a modified normal crown or something else? (By the way, was it normal for an MVK or any other military merit medal equivalent to the EK to be mounted before, because the majority seen are behind it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Just to add something new to this thread which i don't believe has been mentioned before. A bavarian MVK 2nd class with swords and crown mounted above it on the ribbon, not attached to the medal itself. Is this a modified normal crown or something else? (By the way, was it normal for an MVK or any other military merit medal equivalent to the EK to be mounted before, because the majority seen are behind it?) Hello redeagleorder; You have a couple of questions here.... Yes, I think it was a modified normal crown MVK2XK award. I am guessing that the medals are attached by hooks underneath. The hooks were originally put there to allow for easy removal to clean the awards and ribbon, but I believe they were also intended to allow the owner to wear it as a ribbon bar. The crown was attached to the ribbon to indicate that it was a mere MVK, but the "higher" order with the crown. Yes, it is normal for Bavarians to put their merit awards in front of the EK2 (at least before 1934). The Bavarians liked to show a little more independence as the next largest kingdom after Prussia and this was one, of many, way they exhibited it. A great little bar. Show the back too please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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