Bavaria What do you know about Bavarian MVOs and MVKs

[waldo]

Hier ein MVK 1. Form von Adam Hausinger.

VG Walter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by waldo

[Schießplatzmeister]

Servus Walter,

 

Thank you for sharing this very nice and scarce Adam Hausinger MVK with Swords added.  Congratulations regarding owning this piece and the beautiful Schnalle.

 

Best regards,

[Eiserne Wehr]

A proud Bavarian displaying his prized possessions, sadly nothing is writing on the back.

[spolei]

Great photo. He also hung all his crosses on the small field clasp for the photographer. Normally, he would have had to return the cross with the crown when he was awarded second class.

[eos512]

After years of waiting, I finally received this book as my Xmas gift.

[landsknechte]

1 hour ago, eos512 said:

After years of waiting, I finally received this book as my Xmas gift.

 

Nice!  It took a while for it to wing it's way over to the New World, but I've got mine recently as well.  I also got lucky and tracked down the O'Connor books without completely breaking the bank.  The Bavarian book was the toughest to find by a long shot.

 

I'm set for the next several rainy days.

[spolei]

15 hours ago, eos512 said:

After years of waiting, I finally received this book as my Xmas gift.

That was also my own X-mas gift 😉
Best book ever about bavarian MVO
 

[JOCI]

hello everyone! Recently, I received an MVO4 with a red case and a Bandspange/Feldspange, but I don't have confidence in this Bandspange/Feldspange.

 

I am unsure about one thing about the MVO4 case and need to seek help. Does the red case necessarily exist at the end of the war? Does the blue case necessarily exist in the early stages of war?

 

Here is my MBO4 with swords.

 

The red case.

This is something I am not sure about, it seems to be a replica or a patchwork.

 

[VtwinVince]

All looks good to me, scarcer variant of the case, and later in the conflict, as you say. Looks like a Leser MVO? I also like the Feldschnalle.

[dedehansen]

Hi JOCI,

 

the Feldschnalle contains of:

 

Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse

 

bayrischer Militärverdienstorden mit Krone und Schwerter am Beamtenband

 

Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

 

Dienstauszeichnung Bayern

 

Jubiläumsmedaille für die Armee

 

Treuedienstehrenzeichen if silber for 25 years

 

Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938

 

In the 1930s it was not unusual, that wrong ribbons or devices were used.

 

Kind regards

 

Andreas

[JOCI]

20 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

Looks like a Leser MVO?

Thank you for your reply! Yes, JL 900 is on the right sword, 950 is on the left scroll, and J.L. is on the right scroll. This MVO4 L and lion have a JL flavor.

[JOCI]

20 hours ago, dedehansen said:

In the 1930s it was not unusual, that wrong ribbons or devices were used.

Thank you very much for your answer, I have recently been searching for biographical information on a Leutnant d.R. in RIR 249 who was awarded the BZ3bX, would you be willing to help me and give me some clues, thank you very much!

 

I have so far found the Kriegsstammrollen for RIR.249 when he was awarded the order.

I have a few questions for you and would appreciate your answers!

1. Do I have to squint my way through thick photocopied files in the Landesarchiv Baden-Württemberg?
2. I've heard that lieutenants' files are kept, is there a shortcut to accessing their complete files? Like searching for CCCP medals.

 

This is relevant information, and I'd like to thank my great friend Landsknechte for helping me get this information! Or should I go create a new posting to ask for help?

 

[spolei]

Hello, the Leser MVO fits into the red case, it is the post 1917 version with silver gilt medallions. I see the ribbon clasp for a sergeant rank, such as a paymaster. Officers only received a service award after 24 years, so the wearer would have been around 60 after receiving the Anschlussmedaille and the Treuedienstabzeichen would have to be a higher level. It is possible that he changed to the officer rank at the end of the war and received the MVO for it.

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Regards Andreas