misiu Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Hello, I already posted this pic at the "Northern section", especially Finland. But since there have been no replies till now...I think a better place to put this really nice medal bar for a closer discussion is this forum section. I discovered this medal bar on a Finnish dealer side. Best regards Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Very nice tuxedo bar (Frackspange). Probably a kind of offical (Beamter). Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dale Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Yes Beamte, I agree... I'd say..... First World War service in non-combatant role (from EK2 n-c and War Aid Cross), officer rank (from Red Eagle), doctor (Red Cross Medal), served in Finland in 1918 possibly alongside Swedish volunteers (Finnish and Swedish medals). Does that sound right? Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiu Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 I am totally with your explanations...I never saw a Liberty Cross 2nd class civilian on an Imperial German medal bar...this is maybe unique. The owner was a professor...could be in fact a medical one, not a "authorical" one. Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well I saw the Finnish liberty cross 2nd class on various medal bars, but you are right; it's rare! If you browse this very forum you will see other examples (like the medal bar of Jantzen )... Maybe even more rare to find on German bars are beautiful Golden Swedish orders, because of a Neutral state like Sweden not allied to Germany. Personally I was very disappointed not to have won this bar (see below) at an auction a couple of years ago... Ciao, Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well I saw the Finnish liberty cross 2nd class on various medal bars, but you are right; it's rare! If you browse this very forum you will see other examples (like the medal bar of Jantzen )... Maybe even more rare to find on German bars are beautiful Golden Swedish orders, because of a Neutral state like Sweden not allied to Germany. Personally I was very disappointed not to have won this bar (see below) at an auction a couple of years ago... Ciao, Claudio Now that is something else!! No wonder you were disappointed Claudio! Detlef that medal bar is also spectacular and very uncommon with the non-com EK2. Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Wow , Liberty Cross wo Swords 2class 1918 is not very common and given to a German could make it possible to Id I have most of the names for the 2nd Class 1918 but not all But here is a couple of Germans who got it Hans Ulrich von Kotze ( Military Attaché Finland) Hans A A Goldbeck-Löwe ( Worked at German Embassy ) Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiu Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Christer - that is good news if you have such a list. I can provide you the name...maybe you have possibility of research. Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Sorry for the late answer but I have been ill for some days.... First...great bar !!! Claudio... of course you was dissapointed - it`s a Godet .... Detlef , did I understand right.... do you have a name for that bar ??? Heiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiu Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Hallo Heiko, Ja, I do have the name... My third identified Liberty Cross 1918; but my first civilian Would it be possible by having a name to reconstruct the person's cv? Detlef Sorry for the late answer but I have been ill for some days.... First...great bar !!! Claudio... of course you was dissapointed - it`s a Godet .... Detlef , did I understand right.... do you have a name for that bar ??? Heiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Would you be so nice to tell us the name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Yeah! Can't be kotze because no LS medal. Who was this masked man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Well I saw the Finnish liberty cross 2nd class on various medal bars, but you are right; it's rare! If you browse this very forum you will see other examples (like the medal bar of Jantzen )... Maybe even more rare to find on German bars are beautiful Golden Swedish orders, because of a Neutral state like Sweden not allied to Germany. Personally I was very disappointed not to have won this bar (see below) at an auction a couple of years ago... Ciao, Claudio Amazing medal bar+ribbon bar group!! i know how you feel..:banger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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