Paul R Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 I have just received this orders grouping yesterday. The book is dated 1946/7. I am guessing that all of these orders are long service awards... What say you all?
Alfred Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Yes both are most likely long service awards. Red Star 05.11.1946. regards Andreas
Paul R Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 Thanks! For such a group, would you personally still go through the expense of researching them?
Alfred Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 Have a first try to redearch it here: http://podvignaroda.mil.ru/
Paul R Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 Thanks for the link, but I do not understand the language or have a cyrillic keyboard... :- (
Alfred Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 can you post the first page of the award book with the name? You get with google translator a little virtual cyrillic keyboard... :-)
Paul R Posted April 11, 2012 Author Posted April 11, 2012 I am sorry... I thought that I did. Here is a shot of the name. Thank you again for your help. I cannot decipher the script most of the typed letter... I know now how it feels to be illiterate! Paul
Hauptmann Posted April 11, 2012 Posted April 11, 2012 That site is a terrific idea... and although it has an English option it only comes up with some of the page in English. Bad part is that the form to fill in to get information is still all in Russian. I'd LOVE to recheck the pieces I have that I've got research / a name for but no idea what to put in what blank, so I've been dead in the water. I pray they'll make it all come up in English at some point as I'd LOVE to be able to use the site. Great group Paul! :jumping: I don't know about most Soviet collectors but to me, a lot of the beauty of them is the SN's and being able to (in most cases) find out the history behind the award(s). Unlike most ODM's that come our way that are anonymous with these you can fill in the blanks. To me, it doesn't matter if it was for long service as it still makes a very personal connection to it's history... not just some nameless individual in the depths of the past. This is especially true when a picture(s) comes back with the research. To me, it's always worth doing it. Yes, great to get a super hero or famous individual... but honestly, how often does that generally happen. It took a lot of folks both in the front lines as well as behind them to keep things moving and to make the history we've all studied for so long. Just like my LS ORB... about the only way I could be more pleased is if one of the pics showed him wearing that ORB that I now have. Otherwise... I love it just as much as if it had come back to a General or Marshal or some guy that single handedly captured half the German army. I can see the face... I can read his history and holding the award in my hand makes a very strong connection. Plus... he's now remembered whereas before he may not have been. If it were me... I'd say go for it. But I agree... check the site first... you might luck out. Good luck! Can't wait to hear more. :jumping: Dan :cheers:
Alfred Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Dan I chekcked your Red Banner you posted a few days ago here with serial number 227.xxx, but sadly I found no documents for this one.
Alfred Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Thanks Paul for the first page. Bad handwrtiting. I try it later with more time. His last name is: Abdullajev, first name: Mysjeib Fathers name: Husein (?) So, your recipant is most likely a muslim. Maybe from the caucasus region or central Asia like Usbekistan or Turmnenistan. Andreas Edited April 12, 2012 by Alfred
Paul R Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 That is interesting in it's own right! I look forward to seeing what you are able to come up with later.
Alfred Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Research is very easy. Only press the second button on the left side. See arrow. Fill in the name in the first three blanks. last name, first name and fathers name. The same sequence like in the red award book. (the fourth blank is the birthday not necessary) Than press the button below (search) and you got a list with persons whith that name and the awards they got. Andreas
Paul R Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 I hear you. Without being able to decipher what is written in the book, I cannot do much. I cannot tell what the individual letters are unless they are typed.
Wild Card Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Thanks for the link, but I do not understand the language or have a cyrillic keyboard... :- ( Hi Paul R, Do you have a mac?
Paul R Posted April 12, 2012 Author Posted April 12, 2012 I do not have a Mac... :- ( Thanks for looking in the database. The next step is having someone research the numbers. I heard that the database is incomplete, with the Navy, predecesor of the KGB, and medical corps not being availble there yet.
Ferdinand Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 Paul, why don't you just ask a 'real' researcher to find his record card. It will cost you no more than $20 and will tell you when the two orders were awarded and whether or not the group is real.
talulla Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Hello Ferdinand I am new on this forum but all the comments are fascinating for a collector who begins. I saw in several occasions that you spoke of obtaining some "official" informations concerning the attribution of the RBO or the Orders of the Red Star. How to obtain this information? Thank you for your answer. regards. Jean-Sebastien
vladtheman03 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Can you email it to me too please Ferdinand? Thanks, Ian
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