Uncategorised Officer's 8er Medal Bar

[dedehansen]

Hello Gentlemen,

since many years I´ve got this bar in my collection.

Now my question is it possible to get a name on it ?

Iron Cross 2. Class

Centenarmedaille

Bavarian Military Merit Order 4. Class with Swords

Saxsonian Albrechtsorden 1. Class with Swords

Hanseatenkreuz Lübeck

Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg

Prussian Long Service Cross 25 Years for Officers

Flandernkreuz

[dedehansen]

Reverse

KR

Andreas

[Deruelle]

Hi,

A very nice medal bar. It will be difficult to find the name of the owner. Except the DA and the centenary medal there is no other medals to help us through the Ranglisten 1914. He probably received the Red Eagle and or Crown Order but to neck order, so this officer should sent lower grade back to Chancellery.

Like there is no Hindenburg cross, I presume that he died before 1934. Now the only thing to do is to look throug the Reichswehr RL.

Christophe

[M Hunter]

Dear Andreas,

What a truly impressive medal bar.

Best wishes

Matt

[saschaw]

Very nice bar, but probably not a general rank's.

It could well be do-able!

[Dave Danner]

With the BMV4X (Hauptmann and below) and the SA3aX (Major/Hauptmann), most likely a junior Hauptmann or senior Oberleutnant in 1914.

[Leutwein]

definitely a "Hauptmann"-bar (1914)....But I would also tend to Kapitänleutnant or "Hauptmann der Marine-Infanterie".

So someone who was at the beginning of the war Hauptmann/Kaleu

and ended like Korvettenkapitän or may be Fregattenkapitän a.D.

Nice bar!!

Best wishes

Karsten

[Paul C]

I need to confirm one thing and I thing I have who this bar belonged to.

[Paul C]

I got him. Would the owner of this bar please contact me.

[dedehansen]

Hello Gentlemen,

I´ve got the Information from a german forum SDA that the possible owners

are brocken down to two person an Marineoffizier and an Jägeroffizier

KR

Andreas

[redeagleorder]

What a lovely bar, especially if you have a name for it!

Regards,

Matthew

[dedehansen]

Hello Matthew,

until now we haven´t found the only one !

Regards,

Andreas

[dedehansen]

Now, since Rick is back in town, may be the research Guru is possible to ID this Guy

[Guest Rick Research]

Did you people really miss me? I searched back through all the old threads for the ones without answers, so I didn't find this. I thought with so many replies it must have been answered.

Sure--

Wolfgang Max Oskar Hans HERBIG

* 1872

SekLt 20.05.93 U2u

ObLt 18.07.02 Q6q

Hptm 27.01.10 P2p

Major 18.08.15 Z2z

char OTL aD ca 1920

always in Jäger Bn 9 until replaced as commanding officer (08.08.15 until replaced 16.02.16). From 1916+ I don't know where or what he was.

EK1

BMV4X 05.11.14

SA3aX 03.02.15

LüH 05.02.16

His portrait must be in JB 9 WW1 regimental history.

Sources: the usual rank Lists and Rolls books

[Guest Rick Research]

I'm willing to bet the first 5 medals were mounted during the war, then "scalped" after the war and the two 1920s awards added at the end rather than unstitching the other medals to put the XXV in correct 2nd place. Have seen this before when regulations no longer mattered and RM counted.

[arb]

I can add that he was born 17.05.1872 and died 17.07.1954. If you are ever in Berlin, you can visit his grave in the Invalidenfriedhof!

Andy

Edited July 23, 2013 by arb

[dedehansen]

Thanks Rick for giving the bar his name back, You made

my day It´s my first WW I medal bar from

my federal state Schleswig - Holstein with a name. The

Jäger - Bataillon Nr. 9 came from Ratzeburg.

Thanks Andy for adding his life date

Regards

Andreas

[Guest Rick Research]

My first group--thanks to a friend in Hamburg--was JB 9. RJB 9 was part of the 1918 expedition to Georgia. I corresponded frequently with Hptm aD Heinrich Wolgast in the 1980s about the Bn...

one of MY favorites too!

[dedehansen]

Hi,

finally I was able to get a photo from the regimental history showing him with his

awards short before leaving the regiment.

 

Regards

Andreas