J Temple-West Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 A small compilation of police service awards..
Dave B Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 That is a very nice pic John with great subject matter!This is the only police award I have.Dave
Tony Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 John, that's a very nice collection of medals.Dave, how comes I didn't see any awards when I was last in England? Where were you hiding them, with your daggers?Tony
Dave B Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 John, that's a very nice collection of medals.Dave, how comes I didn't see any awards when I was last in England? Where were you hiding them, with your daggers?Tony←Tony mate,I have stacks more but its all in storage......I'm only "allowed" a small collection in the house!Dave
landsknechte Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 My lone contribution is a single ribbon bar...--Chris
Jan Arne S Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 John ! Very nice Police Service Awards !Her is mine , but not in that Great Condion that You show . And I know , I have changed the ribbon on Silver and Gold one after pics was taken . Jan Arne
Bob Hunter Posted June 6, 2005 Posted June 6, 2005 (edited) How about an old Bavarian cop? Edited June 6, 2005 by Bob Hunter
Gerd Becker Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) John,i have exaclty the same bar like you. Take a look: Edited June 9, 2005 by Gerd
J Temple-West Posted June 9, 2005 Author Posted June 9, 2005 That is a nice one, Gerd.The same service for both men.. Probably from the same regiment.
Gerd Becker Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 That is a nice one, Gerd.The same service for both men.. Probably from the same regiment. ←Thanks, John. Thats absolutely possible. What i found strange was that there is no eagle on the ribbon, but this was worn this way, i am sure about that. The guy, i got it from, got it directly from the wearer.Gerd
Stogieman Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 I received a ribbon bar this week with a miniature device for the 8-Year Polizei Dienstmedaille... A first for both Rick's!!!
notned Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Awesome display John!... I love the way you took the picture, gave so much edge to the colours.Nice medals bars guys, keep them coming...RegardsPaul
Guest Rick Research Posted June 12, 2005 Posted June 12, 2005 That is quite an OLD cop bar! In the military 1897 (Wilhelm I Centenary Medal) but not a career active duty NCO (Reserve-Landwehr Medal), which is where most German policemen were recruited from. He flubbed the mounting precedence with the EARLY Bulgarian Silver Merit Medal and the Swedish Vasa Order's Medal in the middle instead of at the end where foreign awards belonged-- but this is the first time I have ever seen either of those on a German medal bar. He saw some combat (even 1 day's worth) in WW1-- probably called out as a Feldgendarme, and may have gotten the Saxe-Coburg Ernestine House Order Medal then, for war merit (no swords/date bar). And there he was, 40 years on, with the M1937-39 Red Cross Medal-- must have been a 60-ish Meister-Hauptmeister Warrant Officer sort.All my Polizei stuff went to a friend who collects only that, but I've been lured back. All I have at the moment aside from photos is this 25mm width ribbon bar, with the full sized embroidered ribbon device.
landsknechte Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 War Lord has asked me to post this for him←That may be a record for the most plain single-color ribbons on a single bar...
JBeltram Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Hello,Police long sevice awards rank as some of my most favorite awards. Here is my contribution.Here is an example that is rather tough to find on a bar. The 8 year Police award. I have noticed that most medal bars have the 25 year or 18 year. I wonder why the 8 year is so tough to find on a medalbar?Regards, Jody Edited June 15, 2005 by JBeltram
Guest Rick Research Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Most policemen in 1935 were ex-WW1 veterans who had "permanent civil service status" after 12+ years service (most already 18+ by then). In 1935 those with under 7 years of police service, who had entered during the 1920s directly from civil life, were transferred to the army or air force for whatever remained of their 12 years enlistments. I have been trying to fnd out for years now when--or if-- police long service awards were halted during WW2 (military ones ceased being processed in 1939 and were last handed out in 1940, civil service awards ceased 30 January 1943, et cetera).IF they were suspended in, say, 1943, only policemen who had joined in 1925+ would not have reached 18-- and those who joined 1928 on had all already been reassigned to the Wehrmacht. That leaves only those few years 1925-27 for entrants who earned an 8 but didn't reach an 18. Likewise, for all the various Nazi Party members who flooded the police from 1935 on to replace the mandatory transferees... they would only have been eligible for an 8 in 1943, and only earlier (as I suspect your 3 medal bar wearer was) if their SA or whatever service time was rolled over into Police after they switched to the public rather than Party payroll...so if awards had CEASED by then...absence of DATA is driving me
JBeltram Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Most policemen in 1935 were ex-WW1 veterans who had "permanent civil service status" after 12+ years service (most already 18+ by then). In 1935 those with under 7 years of police service, who had entered during the 1920s directly from civil life, were transferred to the army or air force for whatever remained of their 12 years enlistments. I have been trying to fnd out for years now when--or if-- police long service awards were halted during WW2 (military ones ceased being processed in 1939 and were last handed out in 1940, civil service awards ceased 30 January 1943, et cetera).IF they were suspended in, say, 1943, only policemen who had joined in 1925+ would not have reached 18-- and those who joined 1928 on had all already been reassigned to the Wehrmacht. That leaves only those few years 1925-27 for entrants who earned an 8 but didn't reach an 18. Likewise, for all the various Nazi Party members who flooded the police from 1935 on to replace the mandatory transferees... they would only have been eligible for an 8 in 1943, and only earlier (as I suspect your 3 medal bar wearer was) if their SA or whatever service time was rolled over into Police after they switched to the public rather than Party payroll...so if awards had CEASED by then...absence of DATA is driving me?←Hi Rick,Very interesting and I think you are on to something. Rick would you please e-mail me at jodybeltram@cox.net I need to ask you something.Many thanks, Jody
Nan Su Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 Wow~~Here is my collection, hoped everybody likes.
Guest Rick Research Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 These are very attractive and TOP quality made awards.Who's got some award documents?
Stogieman Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 The 18-Year cross is actually (IMO) harder to find, especially with the correct silver embroidered ribbon eagle. Chris, that bar is fabulous, can we post it in Imperial too?!
Marcus H Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Boxes again In these you have the 8 Year hinged and unhinged box, the same appllies with the 18 Year medal, but in this instance you have a wide box and the normal width, lastly the 25 Year comes in just the hinged box with the wide version and normal width.Then you have these too.
Stogieman Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Marcus.... interesting! Where the heck did you find that packet!!??
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