laurentius Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 Dear Chris What do you mean? What is done? Is there a problem with your collection? a forum on german imperial awards is no place for LOTR, no matter how good the movies were. Kind regards Laurentius
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 16, 2017 Author Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, laurentius said: Dear Chris What do you mean? What is done? Is there a problem with your collection? a forum on german imperial awards is no place for LOTR, no matter how good the movies were. Kind regards Laurentius What has been done!!?!?! The three rings have been united..... I am now ruler of my universe! The Gollom of Leiberrings! (And yes, it has to do with militaria! :-) .... and I did not have to kill anyone!
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 16, 2017 Author Posted July 16, 2017 Ta Daaaaaaa! Very Precious, almost precious and precious....
Dansson Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 Congratulations Chris! I always like the way you give a hint of what you've added to your collection. I guess you´re now the dark lord Sauron who's now united with his rings of power. That particular scene could be named "Fishing trip gone terribly wrong"
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 16, 2017 Author Posted July 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Dansson said: Congratulations Chris! I always like the way you give a hint of what you've added to your collection. I guess you´re now the dark lord Sauron who's now united with his rings of power. That particular scene could be named "Fishing trip gone terribly wrong" Hi, yes indeed... call me "lord of the Rings" ;-) The Officers one (Lion Head) belonged to Ferdinand Schörner, WW1 PLM winner and WW2 knights cross, Oakleaves, swords and diamonds.
Dansson Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Ferdinand Schörner? No way! That's amazing! Schörner got his PlM in the same operation in Italy 1917 as Rommel did and both served in the Alpenkorps, both happen to be the only two Brilliantenträger who had the PlM as well. Amazing! Very famous owner of that ring. Congratulations once more! Take good care of the ring, we don't want to hear a story of a Bilbo Baggins getting his hands on it Edited July 16, 2017 by Dansson
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 There is always a place for the ringlords here...now we finally know where the real centre of Mittelerde is great Chris great !!!
Dansson Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 You wouldn't happen to live in Bavaria Chris? The map of Middle earth reminds a lot of the German held territory of the western front. According to the map, Bavaria is located about right there where Mordor is...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 16, 2017 Author Posted July 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dansson said: Bavaria is located about right there where Mordor is... now THAT is a coincidence!!!! ;-)
OTTER76 Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Congratz on that stunning piece Chris. I followed that ring too at auction yesterday but totally out of curiosity, and its a true gem. Great catch. 4 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said: now THAT is a coincidence!!!! ;-) Not quite. You know JRR Tolkien was a british vet who fought trench warfare at the Somme and his literature was deeply influenced by this bloody battle
Dansson Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 3 hours ago, OTTER76 said: Not quite. You know JRR Tolkien was a british vet who fought trench warfare at the Somme and his literature was deeply influenced by this bloody battle I know Tolkien was a World War 1 combat veteran. We find it a coincidene that the "Lord of the Rings" lives in Mordor
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Congrats Chris!!!! I tried to bid on Schörners bar, without luck... too expensive! But when I saw that Leiberring, I immediately thought of you... well done! C
Chip Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Nice ring with great provenance! What else was in the Schörner Nachlass auction? Chip
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Check Thies' catalogue here: http://www.andreas-thies.de/kataloge/62_auktion.html Schörner's articles are from page 290 onwards For example his medal bars and some (many) documents were sold. His Godet Pour le Mérite wasn't on sale. Best regards, C
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 I think € 6'400 plus 23%, almost € 7'900 including fees...
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 OMFG another perfect example for paying the name but not the medals....wooow
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) That's the reason I finally didn't want to win that auction... the medals on the bar were about 1500 euro worth... and no picture of the very same bar being worn... Edited July 17, 2017 by Claudio
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 Apparently there was a photo, but not shown in the catalog.
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/S/SchoernerF-R.htm this is one which he's wearing is not exactly the same (look at the order of the medals) @ Chris: I noticed that... But it didn't show it as well as the back of the bar. For that price I would have put more pictures in the catalogue... Edited July 17, 2017 by Claudio
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 I had been in contact with the seller before he delivered the items into the auktion, was going to buy the ring directly from him but unfortunately when he sent me the email confirming I could buy it it landed in my Spam folder. When I contacted him 6 weeks later they had already been delivered into the auction. From what I understand all the items were the items that had not been "souveniered" when he was captured. I suppose it is possible that he had a bar mounted after he was released from captivity, but I think we will never know.
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Interesting... if you could find a deal to buy stuff from him directly you would have spent much less money... and he could probably got more out of it! Btw on the catalogue it was mentioned that this stuff came directly from the family (Familienbesitz)... so that was not entirely true... or was it??? Edited July 17, 2017 by Claudio
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Claudio said: Interesting... if you could find a deal to buy stuff from him directly you would have spent much less money... and he could probably got more out of it! Exactly !!!
Claudio Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 7900 euros for a medal bar probably mounted after the war... mmmmhhh... not good enough for me...
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