WW1 ribbon bar with RAO bow and swords

[drspeck]

Hi all,

I thought I'd post one the ribbon bars from the last Zeige lot. This one features the Red Eagle order with the bow and swords. There are no holes so the prongs do not go through and are held in place by the ribbons. It looks like just for this reason a wide ribbon for the Eagle order was used to fixate everything in place. All ribbons blacklight negativ.

Any thoughts in general and any thoughts on what that second all yellow ribbon is?

All comments appreciated.

Thanks. Peter

[ccj]

It’s very interesting for certain. I haven’t found another award to represent the second yellow ribbon 

[VtwinVince]

Let me get this straight: that's a RAO3 with Schleife on civil ribbon, with a swords device for a military award. I'm confused.

[Komtur]

4 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

Let me get this straight: that's a RAO3 with Schleife on civil ribbon, with a swords device for a military award. I'm confused.

Possibly sword "on the ring".

[Claudius]

On ‎24‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 16:47, ccj said:

It’s very interesting for certain. I haven’t found another award to represent the second yellow ribbon 

Hmmmm...straightaway there is one that I can think of, but looking at the bar I don't see any other affiliations with Schwarzburg.  

 

I want to believe this ribbon bar, but I don't understand it (the awards, the ordering, the construction).

[VtwinVince]

If it's 'Schwerter am Ring', this combo should be identifiable.

[Solomon]

Maybe the 2nd orange ribbon is related to The Netherlands, e.g. house-order Oranje merit medal?

Then the arrangement of the ribbons would make sense:

All Prussian orders first, then the two Lippe-awards and on the last position the foreign Oranje-order.

Edited January 8, 2019 by Solomon

[drspeck]

On ‎26‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 18:25, VtwinVince said:

If it's 'Schwerter am Ring', this combo should be identifiable.

Hi all. Thanks for all the comments so far.

Does anyone have access to the information of those awarded the swords on the ring?

Thnx. Peter

[drspeck]

On ‎08‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 09:45, Solomon said:

Maybe the 2nd orange ribbon is related to The Netherlands, e.g. house-order Oranje merit medal?

Then the arrangement of the ribbons would make sense:

All Prussian orders first, then the two Lippe-awards and on the last position the foreign Oranje-order.

Could the last one also be the Baden Verdienstmedaille?

[redeagleorder]

On 19/02/2019 at 20:01, drspeck said:

Could the last one also be the Baden Verdienstmedaille?

Impossible - a Baden Verdienstmedaille would only have been awarded to other ranks. RAO3's would have been awarded to relatively senior officer ranks.

[Daniel Krause]

Oberst a. D. William Graham. China Vet with Red Eagle 4th with swords and Red Eagle 3 with bow and swords on the ring.

Unique Combo of awards.

Amazing bar!

Congrats!

 

Greetings 

Daniel

[Claudius]

17 minutes ago, Daniel Krause said:

Oberst a. D. William Graham. China Vet with Red Eagle 4th with swords and Red Eagle 3 with bow and swords on the ring.

Unique Combo of awards.

Amazing bar!

Congrats!

 

Greetings 

Daniel

Outstanding work.      Does this also mean that you know what the yellow ribbons are?

[Daniel Krause]

Forgot to mention. Born 1853, died 1923.

Commanded Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment 15 in WW1.

Replaced his peacetime Crown Order 3 by a nice 2nd Class neck cross with swords.

The Hohenzollern ribbon represents a Princely Hohenzollern 2nd class.

The last ribbon should be green... as he had an Italian Maurice and Lazaro Officers cross.... so no other idea why there is a yellow ribbon on it.

 

Greetings 

Daniel

[drspeck]

4 hours ago, Daniel Krause said:

Oberst a. D. William Graham. China Vet with Red Eagle 4th with swords and Red Eagle 3 with bow and swords on the ring.

Unique Combo of awards.

Amazing bar!

Congrats!

 

Greetings 

Daniel

Daniel,

That's fantastic thanks for taking the time and effort

Regards. Peter

Edited May 31, 2019 by drspeck