Soviet My Soviet Orders, Medals and Badges

[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

Just got back from work a bit ago and decided to go ahead and post a few more of my Soviet Orders. So here goes... starting with the October Revolution:

This is one of my favorites. Always liked the design although there are not too many of the Soviet Orders I don't like. Tons of enamel on most of them. And that's always a good thing.

Oh, and checking the photo just now I noticed it looks like there is enamel damage on one of the arms of the star... however it's just a reflection. There are no problems with any of these.

Edited March 1, 2010 by Hauptman

[Hauptmann]

Now for my Order of the Red Banner of Labor:

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[Hauptmann]

Now for my Badge of Honor:

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And last but not least my Order of Labor Glory 3rd Class:

Thanks for taking a look. And as always any additional info, etc. would be most welcome.

Thanks,

Dan

Edited March 1, 2010 by Hauptman

[Stogieman]

Nice pieces. Especially the rather low number October Revolution.

[Hauptmann]

Nice pieces. Especially the rather low number October Revolution.

Hi Stogieman,

Many thanks for the compliment. Do tell on the number on the OR... I'm pretty much flying blind on all this stuff until I can get a copy of the McDaniel book so no idea what's what for the most part.

Thanks,

Dan

[Guest Darrell]

Hi Dan, Now your talking

FYI ....

a. Order of the Red October Revolution:

It is a Variation 2 (5 Rivets)

* S/N 72718 puts its date sometime in 1973 or 1974.

b. The Order of the Red Banner of Labour:

It is a Type 6 Variation 1

* S/N 649610 puts its date from October 1948 to May 1949

c. The Badge of Honor:

It is a Type 4 Variation 2

* S/N 908799 puts its date from April 1971 to December 1973

d. The Order of Labor Glory 3rd Class:

It is a 3rd Class Type 2

* S/N 525949 puts its date from September 1982 to May 1986.

Edited April 19, 2006 by Darrell

[Hauptmann]

Hi Dan, Now your talking

Hi Darrell,

Ahhh, my friend! You make references almost unnecessary! Thanks so much for the info. I mean, literally, other than some basic references to know which is which I don't have anything detailed. These are ones I got in trades... other than the Oct. Rev... I "think" I got that from Alexei... all many many moons ago (no, not quite twenty years for a change. ) so don't even remember what I've got in them and no earthly idea on values for them now.

I did have a couple more of the labor orders and now regret having let them go. Then they were still common and cheap... but hoping to pick up a few more before things go any higher.

Gotta run, work is piling up. But very much appreciate the info on these. I simply cannot wait to get my McDaniel... but probably have to work out selling that SA buckle to do that.

Thanks,

Dan

[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

Well, here's another new addition. Probably be a few days to a week before it arrives as I just purchased it earlier today. I "think" I did okay... $32.57 plus shipping.

Anyhow here it is... only my second one:

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These are the sellers pics.

More tidbits to come as they arrive.

Thanks for looking.

Dan

[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

Here's my latest addition... an Order for Service to the Homeland 3rd class Nr. 98.116.

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[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

Several new additions so far this week and hoping more to arrive soon.

First off, this group from Rick (Stogieman) that I've wanted for some time. Let me say before I post it though that I know there's been alot of controversy surrounding part of this group. But I "love" it and am aware of any possible shortcomings. They don't bother me. I feel this is a terrific group with alot of great WWII history behind it... and to me that's the most important thing. Keeping yet one more memory and bit of history alive and intact.

This is my first researched group. And yes, I know there's another category for that... but Rick already had posted these there. So I'm simply adding them to my ever growing list of Soviet Orders.

The link to Rick's post for any that would care to see it there is:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=9530

Also, after trying my camera I've decided to use Rick's pics (with permission... many thanks Rick! ) till I get my scanner (hopefully soon) and do my own.

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"Georgy Tatoevich Dzhidzhiashvili was born in 1921 in the village of Shindisi, {{{Gavsouvusky??}}} Region of the city of Tbilisi (Tiflis), Georgia. Georgian, higher technical education, called up for the Red Army 20 February 1939 from Tbilisi Oblast MilCom. Member of the CPSU since 1942.

As of 4 December 1955 (Awards Record Card) he was a captain and commanded the “1st Department” at the city of Marneuli (Georgia) Military Commissariat."

Let me say here, that the pictures (IMHOP) do not do this group justice in any way, shape or form. The OGPW 1st looks much better to me in person. The red enamel on the star arms was redone by a jeweler and looks terrific. The white enamel was sadly a bit overcooked in the process and has a bit of a greyish look to it. But to me it also makes the legend stand out a bit and gives it a bit of a unique look. In other words, it stands out. Some folks may not like that... I do. It's got that "I've been there and done that" look to it. And even the contrast between the shinier, more even gold on the hammer and sickle and the nice patina on the gold starburst just brings it all together in my eyes.

This is also my "first" OGPW 1st Type 2 Variation 1. It's a piece I've wanted for some time. I have several of the 80's issues, one being a first, as well as a WWII issue 2nd class Type 2.

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[Hauptmann]

And a reverse view:

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"Awards per Orders Book #857887 on Awards Record Card =

OPW1 # 214,126 per decree of 132nd Rifles Corps 23.5.45

MMM without number per Ukaz 15.11.50 for long service

ORS #3,377,507 per Ukaz 26.10.55 for long service

No campaign or jubilee medals are listed on his ARC at all. Entitlements can only be presumed from his war service units as shown below as: Victory Over Germany and 1948 Armed Forces Jubilee (as of 1955).

His citation for the OPW1 showed him as Lieutenant commanding the machine gun platoon of the 3rd Rifles battalion, 414th Rifles Regiment, 18th Rifles “Mginskoi, Red Banner, Order of Suvorov 2nd Class” Division, 19th Army, 2nd White Russian Front.

It states he had served on the Karelian Front (Finland) from 22 June 1941, and on the 2nd White Russian Front from 1.2.45. Wounded three times: severe wound 19.10.41, and light wounds 12.1.42 and 12.7.42.

His next of kin in May 1945 was his father, Tato Iosifovich Dzhidzhiashvili."

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[Hauptmann]

And the research. First his Awards Record Card (ARC):

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Page 2 of the ARC:

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OGPW 1st Recommendation:

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[Hauptmann]

Actual Citation text:

“Comr. Dzhidzhiashvili at the front of the Patriotic War since 23 June 1941. In combat with the German-fascist occupiers, received THREE wounds, of which one was SEVERE.

19 October 1941, received a severe wound in action the district of Petrozavodska, while commanding a machine gun platoon, 1063rd Rifles Regiment, 272nd Rifles Division.

12 January 1942, received a light wound in action in the district of Medvezhegorsk, while commanding a machine gun platoon, 1072nd Rifles Regiment, 313rd Rifles Division.

12 July 1942, light wound in action in the district of Povenets on the Karelian Front during a reconnaissance action, while commander of a machine gun platoon, 1072nd Rifles Regiment.

For receiving wounds in action for the Socialist Homeland, demonstrated boldness, courage, and valor—

Deserves to be awarded the Order ‘OF THE PATRIOTIC WAR 1ST CLASS.’

16 May 1945, Commander 414th Rifles Regiment, Guards Lieutenant Colonel ‘Arkhipov’

21 May 1945 Deserves to be awarded the Order ‘of the Patriotic War 1st Class,’ Commander of 19th Rifles Division, Colonel ‘Poluvashkin’

8 June 1945 per decree of 23 May 1945 of the 132nd Rifles Corps, awarded Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class, Commander of Cadres, Major ‘Karev’ ‘

Per the units listed in this citation, served on the static front north of Lake Ladoga defending Leningrad from OUTSIDE the besieged city. 19th Army ended the war in the Danzig area. He may well have received Polish awards also not shown on this ARC.

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Also Rick says there's an archival error on the ORS serial number.... note that it has been crossed out and corrected on the original record card!

To me at least, this is just a great group and I could not be more pleased or happy with it.

Many thanks to Rick (Stogieman) for working this out for me... his patience in answering my many questions and for all his assistance with my purchase. Also many thanks to Rick Research and Dave (Navy FCO) for all their aid and assistance and for answering many of my questions as well.

Thanks guys! You are all Scholars and Gentleman and I salute you all!

Dan

[Guest Darrell]

Good Stuff Dan

[Hauptmann]

Now on to the rest of my recent acquisitions... these also being from Rick (Stogieman).

A Type 1 Bravery (For Valor) Medal and a Type 1 Military Merit (For Combat) Medal:

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Again pieces I've wanted for some time and was beginning to think I might never have the opportunity to add to my collection. I think these are great examples and am very pleased.

[Hauptmann]

And the last of this particular purchase... a Bravery (For Valor) Medal Type 2... however, it's a "Duplicate" as indicated by the smaller sized serial number and the cyrillic letter D.

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Again I could not be happier and am proud to add each and every one of these pieces to my humble and ever growing collection of Soviet awards and militaria.

And once again, many thanks to all who helped to make this possible including Paul (Notned) in New Zealand (he knows what he did! ) and all the other Gentleman previously mentioned.

Dan

[Hauptmann]

Good Stuff Dan

Hi Darrell,

I deeply appreciate that. Again these are pieces I was beginning to think I might never add to my collection. But the good Lord worked it out so all the planets and moons lined up and everything worked out. And I'm ever so grateful to Him and all concerned!

I feel like I've definitely advanced to a slightly higher position, not only in the pieces I have but in knowledge, especially since obtaining copies of the red and green bibles. I am constantly grabbing them to look up one thing or another. I honestly don't know how I made it as far as I have without them. But I'm very thankful I have them now.

Now all I need is a gazillion more riker mounts or display cases for all these new pieces. Believe it or not I've never actually purchased riker mounts... they've always come with purchases that just happened to be in them at the time. But I'm now at the point where I'm in serious need of several more. Plus I've had to replace the glass in two or three of my old ones through the years. They take a licking and keep on ticking!

Thanks again!

Dan

[Guest Darrell]

Wow ... you didnt slide down this slippery slope of Soviet Awards, you fell down it

[Hauptmann]

Wow ... you didnt slide down this slippery slope of Soviet Awards, you fell down it

Hey my friend, you said it! As I've said in at least one of my posts, early on I fell into a couple of great trade/purchase deals down in Florida not to far from our home down there. My wonderful, lovely wife Kim actually spotted the ad in the paper for some military items. My friend John who lives in the town these items were listed in went and checked them out for me. He's not an expert but from his report I could tell I needed to head over there.

Kim and I took the drive over. Was in an antique mall and the seller had not had a ton of luck moving the military items there. So I managed to buy out a great quantity of what he had. I'd also gotten with another dealer at a local flea market who had previously purchased alot of material from this same source. Managed to make a good trade with him as well as some trades with the other seller as well. Got a very good basis for my overall Soviet awards collection as I was pretty much able to kill off all the common to semi common medals as well as a number of Orders. So I've just been building it up a few pieces at a time ever since.

I just can't understand anyone who doesn't get into Soviet awards. To me, they have everything. Great design (for the most part), fantastic enamel, precious metals in many instances, and history that can't be beat! Plus the ability to research them and discover who they were awarded to and for what actions... something that is generally not able to be done with the vast majority of awards from other nations.

Plus Kim also loves the enamels and designs... so that was indeed a definite plus!

I'm still falling... and may never hit the bottom... beginning to wonder if there is one. Everytime I turn around I find another facinating facet to this great hobby.

Thanks again,

Dan

[order_of_victory]

Wonderful additions Dan, I notice you now have documented orders

I do love the Duplikat, I realy must find one to add to my collection at some point

Order of Victory

Edited July 22, 2006 by order_of_victory

[Hauptmann]

Wonderful additions Dan, I notice you now have documented orders

I do love the Duplikat, I realy must find one to add to my collection at some point

Order of Victory

Many, many thanks! On the documented and researched pieces... have wanted to get into that for a long, long time. Started to ask around years ago but it always seemed like such a misty, secret ridden realm, not to mention expensive. For some reason I'd gotten it into my head that it cost hundreds of dollars just to do one basic Order. Now, although not pocket change, I can see that I might be able to start doing it before too terribly long.

I've got another researched Order coming which I hope to post soon along with some other pieces. Am keeping my eye out for more groups as I'm able to afford them. But my ultimate dream is to be able to start researching the pieces I have and any I acquire from this point on and dream of dreams, not only get a fairly decent one back but also with a picture(s) of the recipient... wearing some or (dare I ask) all of the awards that I'll have in the set. To me, that's the ultimate... well that and sharing it with my fellow members.

God's been extremely good to me... He's blessed me so much in all ways including my collecting. I just need to be patient... which for me is often one of the worst parts (I pace the floors something awful with packages coming in! I'm like a kid on Christmas morning even when I know what's coming! ) and often, as I'm sure you know, being on the hunt... lying in the grass... waiting for the right prey to come along... lining up the shot (and on Ebay competing with other hunters all shooting at your prey) and bagging it... all takes so much time. But ultimately it can be so rewarding. I'll never understand why folks take drugs or drink to excess and such. To me, there are greater and safer (other than in the wallet department... but then drugs and booze and such are not cheap either!) highs to be had in doing something like this. There's nothing like going to an estate sale, auction or huge flea market, hunting something down and getting it for the price you want. And if you find something for a pittance and then discover it's fantastically rare, desireable and worth many times what you paid... that's priceless!

On the duplicate... I'd definitely recommend getting one. Like all good pieces I'm sure they'll dry up. I'd read and heard some very good advice a few times over the years. Buy the rarer pieces first... the common stuff will be common for alot longer and probably for about the same prices. But the rare items will only keep getting harder to find and the prices will go through the roof. I'm sad to admit it but I've not often done that to my ultimate regret. With the Soviet pieces I got lucky and killed off most of the common basic pieces in a couple of deals and since then I've been able to learn more, concentrate on getting better pieces and it's been great fun and very rewarding.

Trick is, of course, to get all this through trusted sources. Sure I'm preaching to the choir here... but I don't think I'd dare get any of the scarce or rare pieces off of say Evilbay or from a seller I'm not very familiar with. Just not worth the risk. Unless it's for dirt and I've checked it with the membership first. To me, to do otherwise nowadays would be tantamount to playing Russian roulette with one's bank account. I hope I'm old enough (44 on August 13th... all B-day presents extremely welcome! My address is... ) and getting wise enough to know my own limitations knowledge wise. I think that's what is truly priceless... the knowledge one attains through studying such things and learning all one can. And then the best part of that is sharing that knowledge with others.

Well, I'm off to do some more pacing... not sure if I have a package coming in today or not... but I'm hoping.

Thanks!

Dan

[Hauptmann]

Hi all,

Okay, here's a couple of my newest additions. Won't arrive till later this week. Pictures are courtesy of Dave (NavyFCO) with his permission. Thanks Dave!

A long awaited Stalingrad medal and a researched Order of Glory which I'll add to the Researched forum as soon as I have all the information when it arrives. Right now I only have a few basics:

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The Glory 3rd #75677 is an award to a Kazakh, but it was rennumbered by the veteran as a replacement for a lost one. It's got the award card and citation which Dave says is a pretty good one. It's to a machine gunner for killing lots of Germans while taking the City of Vilnus.

Needless to say I can't wait to get it and read the research.

Needless to say this makes my second researched group or individual award. And to say that I'm thrilled would be an extreme understatement.

Again many thanks to Dave for letting me know he had these and working it out with me. I deeply appreciate it.

Thanks,

Dan