drspeck Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Dear all, I have this ribbon bar with an MMJO, which came from Zeige some time ago. I haven been looking for this recipient ever since. I recently picked up a copy of the 1925 Ranklist. Assuming the golden eagles represent continuous service since 1918 and ribbon 4 represents the OM3K (Militärverdienstkreuz mit Kriegsdekoration ), I figured our guy could and should be found in the 1925 ranklist. After going through the 1925 ranklist -twice- I found two names with the exact combination (BMJ3/BM4x/OM3K): Ritter von Thoma Ritter von Weber My most important questions would be, are my assumptions correct and could I have missed anyone? Best, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Couldn´t the ribbon represent a Militärsanitätsorden too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) Hi Here is what I have found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ritter_von_Weber https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_von_Thoma https://www.geiselbach.de/Startseite/Tourismus,Kultur,Freizeit/Persönlichkeiten/KarlRittervonWeber.aspx Christophe Edited May 1, 2020 by Deruelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.F. Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, drspeck said: I recently picked up a copy of the 1925 Ranklist. Assuming the golden eagles represent continuous service since 1918 and ribbon 4 represents the OM3K (Militärverdienstkreuz mit Kriegsdekoration ), I figured our guy could and should be found in the 1925 ranklist. Not necessarily. If your guy was in the Police between the Wars and rejoined the Army he could have 25 years service and would not be listed in the Rank List. Just something to consider. Kind regards, Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hi Peter, my bet is: Militärverdienstmedaille Bayern Militärverdienstkreuz 2 X ? Bayern Verdienstkreuz Gold X Österreich Kind regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, P.F. said: Not necessarily. If your guy was in the Police between the Wars and rejoined the Army he could have 25 years service and would not be listed in the Rank List. Just something to consider. Kind regards, Pierce Pierce, I will. Are there any other sources besides the ranklist to check? 2 hours ago, dedehansen said: Hi Peter, my bet is: Militärverdienstmedaille Bayern Militärverdienstkreuz 2 X ? Bayern Verdienstkreuz Gold X Österreich Kind regards Andreas Andreas, the Verdienstmedaille is also something to check. It is one of the orders in the 1925 ranklist so I will also check the ranklist for this combo. Good suggestions Edited May 2, 2020 by drspeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 hours ago, dedehansen said: Hi Peter, my bet is: Militärverdienstmedaille Bayern Militärverdienstkreuz 2 X ? Bayern Verdienstkreuz Gold X Österreich Kind regards Andreas Hello Peter, I agree with Andreas. This field ribbon bar most-likely belonged to an NCO (who could have been promoted to a field-grade Leutnant in WWI) who was a MVM/TKM recipient. There is therefore no way to identify who the recipient of these awards was. There is nothing to necessarily indicate that this belonged to a MMJO recipient. I believe that you can eliminate this having belonged to Ritter von Thoma or Ritter von Weber. Congratulations regarding having this nice "soft-style" sew-on field ribbon bar for your collection! Best regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I agree, probably not a MMJO recipient. Very nice Feldschnalle nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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