Bilco Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Hi Oliver, Many thanks for the information. As there is no LA or R anywhere it looks like it's a type unknown to Laslo! Bill
oliver860 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Hi Bill! Maybe it's the wide U - shaped ear medals! And there is a narrow U - shaped ear medals! oliver860
oliver860 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 And there is a narrow U - shaped ear medals! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-rare-Belgium-WWI-Victory-medal-unofficial-variation-/251209848385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d461641&nma=true&si=7BCAdr8W1yKok1G5A6%2BsT13lBoM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean-Michel Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Hi! Why marking "January-Berchot"? And I think the Belgian medals marking - a triangle and the letter «AC» (Establissements Adrean Chobillon) oliver860 Hello Olivier, There is a Belgian medal manufactured by the French firm "Berchot-January." The punch is a triangle with the letters "JB" and the word "BRONZE". Depending on the model, the writing is small or large. By cons there is indeed a model "CHOBILLON" I think LASLO had no knowledge of all models produced. Regards
oliver860 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Hello Jean-Michel! Letters badly seen. But! Company «January-Berchot» - convex triangle! A company «Establissements Adrean Chobillon» - Triangle pushed into the casing. oliver860
oliver860 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Properly «January-Berchot» or «Janvier Berchot»? oliver860
Bilco Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 HI Oliver, I think that, as Janvier was the name of one of the partners we should use that spelling. There is an article on Janvier here http://medalblog.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/janviers_pantograph/ Bill
Bilco Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Hi Gents, I see that Belgian vic on eBay - post #64 on page 4 - sold this morning for $213.50. If it was won by someone posting here maybe we could see close-ups? Bill Edited January 22, 2013 by Bilco
oliver860 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Salut! Mon Belgique médaille. Bonne photo "JBhttp://sammler.ru/index.php?showtopic=115165&st=0&#entry1507372 oliver860
Bilco Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Oliver, A very nice example, and a very clear Janvier-Berchot triangle mark. Laslo only mentions the Chobillon-made version, I see. Mine is the same as yours. Bill
oliver860 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Hi! Photo Chobillon version peut être vu? Oliver
Bilco Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Oliver, Malheureusement pas - at least, I haven't seen one. Maybe someone here has one??? Bill
Bilco Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Oliver, An interesting factoid about the Chobillon mark. I found this item http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/35605-belgium-medal/page-2 post #39 with examples of the Chobillon mark, and it is said that the AC triangular mark is only found on the Victory medals. Bill
RobW Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Hello, I present to you my various Belgian medals, none is identical and I miss a model uniface silver with marking "boar". Regards Jean-Michel Hello Jean-Michel, While I have seen the uniface model in darker bronze, are you saying that there is a uniface model made in silver?? That would be interesting. Regards, Rob
Jean-Michel Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Hello Jean-Michel, While I have seen the uniface model in darker bronze, are you saying that there is a uniface model made in silver?? That would be interesting. Regards, Rob Hello Rob, I found it odd that you have not yet responded to this medal . Indeed, there is a model uniface silver and model uniface vermeil. I know the person who owns this model, but I do not have any photos, I do not despair of you show one day. Regards Jean-Michel Edited February 27, 2013 by Jean-Michel
Marne14 Posted February 23, 2013 Posted February 23, 2013 Hi, Hi Bill! This is not an official type 1. Suspension look original None PAUL DUBOIS on the obverse. On the reverse there is no «LA» and «R». Diameter 36.8 mm, thickness 2.7 mm. Czech tape. oliver860 It's not at all a Czech model but a belgian model made more recently (making less detailed and some of them have a varnish finish). Here, three models of my collect: Cheers Pierre-Yves
RobW Posted February 23, 2013 Posted February 23, 2013 Hi, It's not at all a Czech model but a belgian model made more recently (making less detailed and some of them have a varnish finish). Here, three models of my collect: Cheers Pierre-Yves Hello Pierre, You mention the model on the left, of the three you posted, has the Chobillon hallmark and bronze on the edge. Could you post a picture of the rim for us to compare? Regards, Rob
peron Posted February 24, 2013 Posted February 24, 2013 Hi everyone!!!!!Here's my recently aquisition to my VM colection...a VM belgian/Czech version
RobW Posted February 27, 2013 Posted February 27, 2013 Hi everyone!!!!! Here's my recently aquisition to my VM colection...a VM belgian/Czech version Hello Peron, A very nice Alexander Leisek produced variety. The obverse/reverse strike is quite good and the makers marks are quite pronounced. There should be the faint marking of 'Paul Dubois' on the obverse on the right of the feet of victory as viewed. It is a bit difficult to see in the pictures provided. Regards, Rob
peron Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Hello Peron, A very nice Alexander Leisek produced variety. The obverse/reverse strike is quite good and the makers marks are quite pronounced. There should be the faint marking of 'Paul Dubois' on the obverse on the right of the feet of victory as viewed. It is a bit difficult to see in the pictures provided. Regards, Rob You're rigth the signature is not very clear to see...
Jean-Michel Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Hello Peron, It seems that the suspension brace has been re welded. Regards Jean-Michel
peron Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Hello Peron, It seems that the suspension brace has been re welded. Regards Jean-Michel I suspect that too
johnnymac Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Hi I just received this in the mail today, and got what I think is a nice surprise. A what seems to be a double hit. But as you look a little closer at the wings in the background are they larger and flat like it was grinded down not like a double hit? Looking even closer the figure is larger than the front one Blue markers are for the front the red for the back. Jim
Jean-Michel Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Hello Jim, This medal is very nice. This is the first time I see this kind of detail. The Belgian model has several variants with different small details that are not always visible to the eye. Thanks to you Jim, I'm going in search of this model. Thank you for the photos. Regards Jean-Michel
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