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    Graf von Holsnstein. prewar Bavarian Infanterie leibregiment officer, during the war a staff officer.... many I can not identify... but an impressive rack for a holnstein4.thumb.jpg.dce25f4f554cf71f760f3b445d4eb76f.jpgholnstein3.thumb.jpg.0fb129d236f919fe06e52cfeb06d9768.jpgtea and cocktail commando....

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    what's he wearing above the twm? one of those bavarian golden wedding badges in bronze, or is it some type of bulgarian award?

    also, is the last medal on his bar a spanish award? as you say, quite the impressive array

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      On 20/03/2021 at 12:06, Chris Boonzaier said:

    holnstein3.thumb.jpg.0fb129d236f919fe06e52cfeb06d9768.jpgtea and cocktail commando....

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    Alright, let's have a try.

    On the breast, clockwise we have:

    -EK1

    -Order of Franz Joseph officerscross (FJÖ)

    -Iron Crescent (TH)

    -freikorpsbadge ( I recognize it, but can't identify it.)

     

    On the medalbar:

    -BMVO4krx (Bavarian Military Merit Order with crown and swords)

    -BMVO4 (Bavarian Military Merit Order)

    -Verdienstorden vom Heiligen Michael (don't know the abreviation)

    -I am thinking the gold prince Rupprecht medal or the 1918 wedding anniversary medal, sometimes smugly worn by Bavarians before the EK)

    -Prinzregent-Luitpoldmedaille (BPL)

    -EK2

    -HoHx (House Order of Hohenzollern with swords)

    -BZL4x (or 3) (Baden Zähringen Löwe)

    -behind the BZL is a small cross-like decoration with crown which I can't identify

    -SA3b (Saxon Order of Albrecht)

    -WF3 (Württemberg Friedrich Order)

    -BDA (Bavarian Long Service cross)

    -Franz Joseph jubileum medal

    -last but not least, the Spanish cross for merit, white I think.

     

    This identification should be correct, apart from the medal in the fourth place and the cross in the ninth place.

     

    Kind regards, Laurentius

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    A silly question, is it usual to wear the Austrian Steckkreuz and not have a lower grade Austrian award on the bar?

    Thanks for the identifications! I need to hit the books, but I am guessing he got awards from just about every dignitary who visited the HQ?

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      On 21/03/2021 at 07:20, Chris Boonzaier said:

    A silly question, is it usual to wear the Austrian Steckkreuz and not have a lower grade Austrian award on the bar?

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    Seems normal to me, since there is also an Austrian medal I suspect this officer has some Austrian connection. Perhaps he got the steckkreuz without previously having gotten the lower grade.

     

      On 21/03/2021 at 07:20, Chris Boonzaier said:

    Thanks for the identifications! I need to hit the books, but I am guessing he got awards from just about every dignitary who visited the HQ?

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    We can't be 100% certain but I would consider that very well possible.

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    Graf Ludwig was a former "personal adjutant" to Prinz (later König) Ludwig hence the vast array of peacetime awards, which was very much par for the course for an individual in such an appointment. He had previously not held a lower grade of the Austrian Franz Josef Order when he was awarded the Offizierskreuz (permission to accept and wear on 19 October 1909).

     

    Regards

    Glenn

    Posted
      On 21/03/2021 at 08:35, Glenn J said:

    Graf Ludwig was a former "personal adjutant" to Prinz (later König) Ludwig hence the vast array of peacetime awards, which was very much par for the course for an individual in such an appointment. He had previously not held a lower grade of the Austrian Franz Josef Order when he was awarded the Offizierskreuz (permission to accept and wear on 19 October 1909).

     

    Regards

    Glenn

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    Ahhh... OK, I saw him mentioned in the Leiber and had not looked much further yet... So he would probably have known Leonrod!

     

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      On 21/03/2021 at 06:42, laurentius said:

     

    Alright, let's have a try.

    On the breast, clockwise we have:

    -EK1

    -Order of Franz Joseph officerscross (FJÖ)

    -Iron Crescent (TH)

    -freikorpsbadge ( I recognize it, but can't identify it.)

     

    On the medalbar:

    -BMVO4krx (Bavarian Military Merit Order with crown and swords)

    -BMVO4 (Bavarian Military Merit Order)

    -Verdienstorden vom Heiligen Michael (don't know the abreviation)

    -I am thinking the gold prince Rupprecht medal or the 1918 wedding anniversary medal, sometimes smugly worn by Bavarians before the EK)

    -Prinzregent-Luitpoldmedaille (BPL)

    -EK2

    -HoHx (House Order of Hohenzollern with swords)

    -BZL4x (or 3) (Baden Zähringen Löwe)

    -behind the BZL is a small cross-like decoration with crown which I can't identify

    -SA3b (Saxon Order of Albrecht)

    -WF3 (Württemberg Friedrich Order)

    -BDA (Bavarian Long Service cross)

    -Franz Joseph jubileum medal

    -last but not least, the Spanish cross for merit, white I think.

     

    This identification should be correct, apart from the medal in the fourth place and the cross in the ninth place.

     

    Kind regards, Laurentius

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    On the medal bar, nine in from the left. Brunswick's - Order of Heinrich the Lion Knight's Cross?

    Edited by graham
    Posted
      On 21/03/2021 at 09:37, graham said:

    On the medal bar, nine in from the left. Brunswick's - Order of Heinrich the Lion Knight's Cross?

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    Yes,

     

    much clearer on his peacetime bar.

     

    Regards

    Glenn

     

    Holnstein.jpg.783a1f53539711ae0d47a92a35716e59.jpg

    Posted (edited)
      On 21/03/2021 at 08:35, Glenn J said:

    Graf Ludwig was a former "personal adjutant" to Prinz (later König) Ludwig....

     

    Regards

    Glenn

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    that's why he's sporting this seldom-seen badge, which was a late-war creation. not very many were issued

     

    https://antique-photos.com/en/awardsdatabase/german-empire/bavaria/661-golden-wedding-of-royal-couple-commemorative-badge.html

    Edited by Eric Stahlhut
    Posted

    Thanks Eric,

     

    which probably confirms the identification by Laurentius of the medal in 4th place;  the 1918 golden wedding anniversary medal.

     

    Regards

    Glenn

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