MVK 3. Class with the 'war' ribbon

[Ian]

Gentlemen, This has confused me for some time and a search on the internet and in this forum has, so far, failed to provide me with a satisfactory answer. 

For what reason(s) would a peace time MVK 3. be issued on the war ribbon?

 

[Graf]

Hi Ian,

 

One reason could be that the original ribbon was damaged and a new, not the correct one, was  "married" to the order. I have seen with other countries Orders.

However since i am not very familiar with Austrian Orders, that is only speculation

 

[Christian1962]

3 hours ago, Ian said:

Gentlemen, This has confused me for some time and a search on the internet and in this forum has, so far, failed to provide me with a satisfactory answer. 

For what reason(s) would a peace time MVK 3. be issued on the war ribbon?

 

The MVK was introduced in 1849 and it was instituted with the "war" ribbon even for peacetime and wartime service.

 

 

The war decoration was instituted in 1860 and the ribbon was still the same for both. There was never another ribbon for the imperial MVK.

 

Regards

 

Christian

[Ian]

Hi Christian,

 

Just so I am 100% certain...the MVK was never issued on the plain red ribbon, but always on the 'war' ribbon.

 

Regards,

Ian

[graham]

Ian,

This is an interesting website that may be of some assistance:

 

https://www.omsa.org/military-merit-cross-second-issue/

https://www.omsa.org/military-merit-cross-third-class/

[Ian]

Graham,

 

Many thanks for the very useful  links.  

[tifes]

8 hours ago, Ian said:

Hi Christian,

 

Just so I am 100% certain...the MVK was never issued on the plain red ribbon, but always on the 'war' ribbon.

 

Regards,

Ian

No, never. Always on this one, which is officially named "ribbon of Military Merit Cross" (in case of orders/ decorations awarded to officers)

[Ian]

Thanks. I had seen an MVK.3 on a red ribbon (eBay I think?), obviously wrong as I now understand.

[Graf]

There you are I felt the topic was started because of not a correct ribbon

Ian you can see those incorrect ribbons on eBay on Dealers sites and Auctions.  Some sellers will indicate, if they know, that the ribbon is incorrect

 

 

That is the purpose of those Forums - the share knowledge and experience

[Ian]

Graf,

 

Spot on and that is what confused me as I had never seen photos anyone for the A-H army wearing the MVK 3. on the red ribbon. IndEed you are correct regarding this and other forums.

[Graf]

Hi Ian,

 

I hope you are Happy  and you got the answer you wanted

 

Cheers

Edited August 23, 2021 by Graf

[Ian]

Most definitely...question asked asked. questioned answered. Thank you all.

[Graf]

Hi Ian,

 

 A similar cross was just listed on eBay. com

 

Graf

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

 

here: 

 although an 11 years old topic, we can have some info and pictures of the evolution of this fine award.

 

Best,

 

Enzo (E.L.)

[chechaco1]

[Ian]

Thank you for posting the pictures of the Statue for the MVK, very useful for future reference.