Ever See This Device On This Ribbon?

[Stogieman]

Helmut Weitze posted this interesting group on his website today. I’ve been chasing St. Henry for a very long time and I’ve never seen this crown device on a St. Henry ribbon before? I’m curious if anyone else has seen this anomaly?? In studying the images (courtesy of Weitze.net) I believe the bar to be original.

[VtwinVince]

That's a weird one, never seen it before either.

[Stogieman]

While we’re on this subject, here’s another oddball. St. Henry Ribbon with swords attached. This one has languished on eBay.de for months at 135-Euro.

[Deruelle]

@Stogieman

 I had long time ago a nice saxon officer ribbon bar with crown device. It appears only after 1920 in the Reichswehr to to distinguish the difference between officers and non-commissioned members who have been awarded the saint henry medalmake

Christophe

 

You can see it in my topic about Saxon collection

 

Christophe

[Nicolas7507]

Another one from my collection. Same estate, I think.

 

Nicolas

[Stogieman]

Wow! @Deruelle, thank you!

@Nicolas7507, thank you! And yes, I agree, looks like the same guy! I wonder where the documents ended up!

[JasonA]

Thanks for posting Nicolas…that was one of a few bars I could recall with that crown device.  Nice to see you have it in your collection.

 

👍

 

J-

[Stogieman]

So, would it be logical to assume attaching the swords would signify it being a medal?

[Giannis S.]

The attached crown can determine the difference between the cross of the Order and the medal.

[CRBeery]

One in my collection.

[Stogieman]

Well that’s beautiful bar Chet, thanks!!

[Stogieman]

I understand about the crown now, pretty surprised I haven’t seen it before but I was away from the Forum for an extended period of time.

so, no logical explanation for the swords on that second bar I posted? Other than that issue, the bar looked legit to me?