Claudio Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear forumites:I would like to introduce a decoration, which is not so known to the most collectors and doesn't appear to be so "attractive" since it was a Bavarian for war merit at home (sort of KVK).According to Nimmergut (Deutsche Orden & Ehrenzeichen, Band Nr. 1, Seiten 215 und 216):Insgesamt wurden von Juli 1916 bis M?rz 1918 ca. 73'000 Verleihungen vorgenommen. Die erste Verleihung betrug 4'400 Exemplare.Founded in:Stiftung: 07.01.1916 durch K?nig Ludwig III. von BayernAwardes for:"... als Zeichen ehrender und dankbarer Anerkennung f?r solche Person... die sich w?hrend dieses Krieges durch dienstliche oder freiwillige T?tigkeit in der Heimat besondere Verdienste um das Heer oder die allgemeine Wohlfahrt des Landes erworben haben."Enjoy!I would like you to contribute to this thread and am kindly asking to post yours...Ciao,Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Hi Claudio,Nice clean example!Heres mine...its a bit fadedthese crosses are quite interesting and different are'nt they...CheersPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Claudio, Beautiful single mounted example, the condition is superb. If I could find one like this I would jump on it, unfortunately most of them seem to have faded ribbons and oxidized crosses. That looks like it was lovingly packed away and has not seen the light of day in 90 years. Dan Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Hi Claudio!Frankly I?m a bit embarrassed to post this piece because, compared to yours and Paul?s, it?s pretty grungy; but I?ll do it because it illustrates one of the bronze examples of the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 And while we?re on the subject, I thought that I should show this 100th constitution jubilee silver cross which, as you can see has the same obverse as the Ludwig Cross; but a different reverse. Again, I hope that you don?t mind the fact that these pieces are a bit knocked about.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Reverses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) Dear forumites:I would like to introduce a decoration, which is not so known to the most collectors and doesn't appear to be so "attractive" since it was a Bavarian for war merit at home (sort of KVK).According to Nimmergut (Deutsche Orden & Ehrenzeichen, Band Nr. 1, Seiten 215 und 216):Insgesamt wurden von Juli 1916 bis M?rz 1918 ca. 73'000 Verleihungen vorgenommen. Die erste Verleihung betrug 4'400 Exemplare.Founded in:Stiftung: 07.01.1916 durch K?nig Ludwig III. von BayernAwardes for:"... als Zeichen ehrender und dankbarer Anerkennung f?r solche Person... die sich w?hrend dieses Krieges durch dienstliche oder freiwillige T?tigkeit in der Heimat besondere Verdienste um das Heer oder die allgemeine Wohlfahrt des Landes erworben haben."Enjoy!I would like you to contribute to this thread and am kindly asking to post yours...Ciao,ClaudioHallo Gentlemen nice Bavarian King Ludwig Crosses, Mine is pictured in the Collectors showcase and I add the link here:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7352&st=20The large Cross has a reproduction ribbon , however the mini-cross is all original. I was lucky enough to obtain 3 of these minis Kevin in Deva Edited June 17, 2006 by Kev in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 One's a "greenie". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 I can now post some new pictures of a mini Ludwig, (one of three from my collection) I took today, by the way the coin is 18mm in diameter Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Great pieces guys ,Kevin, those mini's are great I would love to find one. Chris, beautiful, I had no idea that the anniversary cross existed. To have both on a bar is truly sweet. Ralph, I love the green one. I have never seen one of those. Now look what you all have done. Made me want to go look for some of these. Dan Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 These seem to show up much more as single mounts or unmounted. Finding them on a bar is not easy. I only have this one mounted and a loose one. The ribbons on these seem fragile compared to other awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eagle Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Here is mine in his package: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eagle Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Here's a big thread on the Ludwig Cross from a year ago:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1065and another one:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Thanks for the compliment Dan. Yes, I was very fortunate to get one of these, especially mounted on a bar with the Ludwig Cross next to it, which makes for a nice comparison. Unfortunately some pretty good fakes of these started showing up a couple of years ago. At one time, I had a complete set to this award including the award document and its? container (tube). I remember that it was awarded on the day of foundation, 7 January 1916, to an industrialist with the unlikely name of Ludolph Chillingsworth.Ralph, that ?greenie? is undoubtedly the nicest one I?ve ever seen - superb! Does anyone have any idea as to why they went to green? Why not stay with black? And Kevin, really nice minis. I?ve often thought that the minis to this cross were unusually rare. Now I know why; Kevin?s got them all (nice ones too).I think that it might be worth mentioning that there is another cross that is a sort of regimental jubilee medal. It has the same obverse as these other crosses; but the reverse has the date 1868 over 1918. If I make it out correctly, it is connected with the Austrian Inf. reg. no. 62. Thank you all for what has developed into another great thread.Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Just saw this thread now and very interesting.I too have a "greenie" and a mini.What is the significance of these "greenies" if there is one. I noticed Ralph has one and somebody else commented on this type. So here is my contribution to the threadCheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 The general opinion, based on von Hessenthal and Schreiber's division into the three types (blackened bronze, green finished, and icky zink) is a decline in materials as the war went on. So ROUGHLY 1916, 1917, and 1918 awards by type though I am sure there was no such neat literal cutoff date by calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 The general opinion, based on von Hessenthal and Schreiber's division into the three types (blackened bronze, green finished, and icky zink) is a decline in materials as the war went on. So ROUGHLY 1916, 1917, and 1918 awards by type though I am sure there was no such neat literal cutoff date by calendar.Thanks Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 ....also I cant help thinking that "Luddy" looks remarkebly like British Royal family! I do know there is a connection but uncanny!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuRob Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 ....also I cant help thinking that "Luddy" looks remarkebly like British Royal family! I do know there is a connection but uncanny!Rob remarkably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Here are mine. The onec on the ribbon is magnetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Here is a story worth reading and a reminder of the human beings behind these pieces of cloth and metal. http://www.isthatlegal.org/archives/2007/0..._leos_meda.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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