Christophe Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 Now, back to Auke's question : (...)And a new question (shouldn't be too difficult):I am a famous Soviet general. At the start of the GPW I was a Colonel and a tank division commander. In 11 months time I was, amongst others, awarded the Kutuzov 2nd and 1st Classes, two Suvorov 1st Classes and a Khmelnitsky 1st Class. In the spring of 1944 I was already a Colonel-General. Within a year after this date I also became a two times HSU. Who am I?Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) Yes, that is Eisenhower's. From their collection. Which, apparently, That Forum has the unmitigated gall to assert is under their copyright!!! Someone needs to sue their pretentious bandwidth off! This would go to six digits (US$) in damages in intellectual property court. (Shall see if I still have ex-students at the Eisenhower Museum. I know I have an ex-student in a major intellectual property firm. Time for introductions.) Ed,For our website (www.ww2awards.com) we asked the Eisenhower Library for permission to use their pictures of the Order of Victory. Their Audiovisual Archivist asked where we found the pictures (the Soviet Awards Page). This was a part of their response:"Since the photographs of the order of victory used on the Soviet Awards wesbite were taken by our staff photographer, they are unrestricted so you are free to use them on your website".So there is no problem I think, although the SAP of course had no right to place copyright marks on the photographs.Auke Edited May 24, 2007 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I have a pic of Marshal Fedor Tolbukhin's award card including his Order of Victory, awarded on 26 April 1945. No SN is indicated... Cheers.Ch.Dear Christophe,that's an highly interesting phaleristic fact .So, it seems, that the Victory has been the ONLY Soviet Order WITHOUT s/n. .Please could you show the pic to us .Best would be to open a new thread: Order of Victory: s/n. - yes or no ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Answer to question #119: Mikhail KatukovI am a famous Soviet general. At the start of the GPW I was a Colonel and a tank division commander. In 11 months time I was, amongst others, awarded the Kutuzov 2nd and 1st Classes, two Suvorov 1st Classes and a Khmelnitsky 1st Class. In the spring of 1944 I was already a Colonel-General. Within a year after this date I also became a two times HSU. Who am I?Dear Auke,it seems, that the comrade in question has to be the famous General Mikhail Katukov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Katukov .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 StatisticsDear Christophe,your quiz-thread has now more than 1,400 replies and almost 13,400 views .I assume, that our thread is now - in any respect - the absolute No. 1 at GMIC .Could you check that aspect - many thanks .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Hi Christian,It is indeed Mikhail Yefimovich Katukov. Amongst his other awards are four Orders of Lenin, three Red Banners, a Red Star, a Homeland 3rd Class and a Mongolian Sukhbaatar. Katukov was promoted to Marshal of Armored Forces in May 1959. He imigrated to the USA in 1981 and died there in 1989.Your turn again!Auke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 (...)Best would be to open a new thread: Order of Victory: s/n. - yes or no ?Best regards ChristianHi Christian,Will certainly do it and post the pic.BTW, congrats for your latest victory!!! Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 StatisticsDear Christophe,your quiz-thread has now more than 1,400 replies and almost 13,400 views .I assume, that our thread is now - in any respect - the absolute No. 1 at GMIC .Could you check that aspect - many thanks .Best regards ChristianHi Christian,Indeed the Quiz is a very popular thread in the Forum... But, to be the absolute N?1, it must be the N?1 regarding the number of replies AND views!!!! Today, the Quiz has gathered 1,407 replies and 13,390 views.The competitors are (were) :* A collection of Awards, of WAR LORD, with 508 replies (only), but 17,310 views....* Tinie Database, fo the Chairman, with 1,223 replies and 9,342 views... now far behind us... "A collection of awards" is actually the only one real competitor for the Title of Thread N?1.A few efforts and we will be the absolute N?1... Thanks to all.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 (edited) Hi Christian,It is indeed Mikhail Yefimovich Katukov. Amongst his other awards are four Orders of Lenin, three Red Banners, a Red Star, a Homeland 3rd Class and a Mongolian Sukhbaatar. Katukov was promoted to Marshal of Armored Forces in May 1959. He imigrated to the USA in 1981 and died there in 1989.Your turn again!AukeGentlemen,many thanks for your congratulations to my 22nd victory .Katukov had been Jewish and I rank him among the top-ten Soviet "Field-Generals" of the GPW.Did General Katukov imigrate to the USA with the full collection of his orders, medals and decorations ?Usually Jewish veterans had been allowed to imigrate (in most cases to Israel) in their uniforms with all the awards on.What happened to the Katukov-group ? Now back in the collection of a rich Russian ?Imagine the present market-value of the complete (Marshal-Star, all documents, etc., etc.) Katukov-group . It has to be far beyond half a million USD .Best regards Christian Edited May 25, 2007 by Christian Zulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 (edited) New question #120: Communist YugoslaviaGentlemen,now again a rather easy question for our quiz :What has the colour "WHITE" to do with Yugoslavia in WW II ?A rather well known person from Vladivostok, who has something to do with my question:Best regards ChristianBTW: I posted the new quiz-question also at the YU-section http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=179728 . So, be quick with the answer, if you want to score the point . Edited May 25, 2007 by Christian Zulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 After the invasion of Slovenia, the country was divided in three parts, under Italy, Germany and Hungary, in order to destroy them as nation, because racially, if not pure, they were still considered far better than other Slavic people.During the occupation, a White Guard (Bela Garda) was formed. It was a collaborating movement, that helped the invaders in the fight against partisans and communists. After the war they surrendered to the British forces at the border with Austria, but English sent them back in Tito's hands, signing their death.A Belogardista:Regards,Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 26, 2007 Author Share Posted May 26, 2007 Filip,Welcome to the Quiz!!!!! I hope you first participation will bring you one victory. Let's see what Christian will think about your answer. Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 After the invasion of Slovenia, the country was divided in three parts, under Italy, Germany and Hungary, in order to destroy them as nation, because racially, if not pure, they were still considered far better than other Slavic people.During the occupation, a White Guard (Bela Garda) was formed. It was a collaborating movement, that helped the invaders in the fight against partisans and communists. After the war they surrendered to the British forces at the border with Austria, but English sent them back in Tito's hands, signing their death.Regards,FilipDear Filip,sorry ...... , if I wouldn't have posted the photograph of the famous actor Yul Brynner under my "White"-question, then your answer could have been correct, because the "Bela Garda" had been also "White" .Two more hints:- that famous actor points to a great movie, which everyone knows and most of us have seen it.- the colour "White" has been given by the Germans and generally used by the Axis-Powers in Yugoslavia during a certain period of time.I am 100 % sure, that you exactly know the answer to my question .Best regards ChristianBTW: Maybe you can start a new thread about the "Bela Garda" at our YU-section - that's a highly interesting topic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I didn't pay enough attention to the picture, now it's clear... I already gave my answer, so I won't try again. Christian, I'll send you a PM with my answer.Regards, Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 We have a new winnerI didn't pay enough attention to the picture, now it's clear... I already gave my answer, so I won't try again. Christian, I'll send you a PM with my answer.Regards, FilipGentlemen,Filip ("Drugo") is new at the quiz and thought, that only 1 answer is allowed .He sent the correct answer via PM to me:Quiz, Today, 09:14 Fall WeissCongratulations to Filip for his first victory .The "Fall Weiss" ("Case White") had been the Battle of Neretva http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Neretva and Yul Brynner played a leading role ("Vlado") in the movie "The Battle of Neretva" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_of_Neretva .So it is Filip's turn to put the new question #121 .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 27, 2007 Author Share Posted May 27, 2007 Congrats Filip !!Well done for your first participation . And, again, welcome to the Quiz!!!Your turn, now to ask the next question... Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 (edited) Thank you Christophe! Question #121To stay on topic with last question (Yugoslavia IIWW):- WHO IS THE MAN ON THE LEFT PORTRAITED IN THIS PICTURE? -Regards,Filip Edited May 27, 2007 by Drugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Thank you Christophe! Question #121To stay on topic with last question (Yugoslavia IIWW):- WHO IS THE MAN ON THE LEFT PORTRAITED IN THIS PICTURE? -Regards,FilipDear Filip,difficult question .... I assume, that the (not so young) comrade on the left with the JNA-soldiers has to be one of the heroes of the Yugoslav Partisan War in WW II, who got at least a "Partisan Star 1cl" or even an "Order of Freedom" .I will have to do some research in my library & internet .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Hmm... from your answer I guess this one won't be easy.I'm sorry, Christoph, but those aren't JNA soldiers, and that older gentleman didn't get any partisan star at the end of the war... I would rather say he got a partisan bullet, but he didn't die by firearms...A couple of hints:- He's SERBIAN.- He fought in the Balkan Wars and in the IWW - and he was a good soldier, too. He also had a primal role in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but for a short time.Regards,Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Dragi?a Cvetković ?Dear Filip,might the person be the former (1939 - 1941) YU-prime minister Dragi?a Cvetković in older years, who died 1969 in Paris in exile ?Best regards ChristianHmm... from your answer I guess this one won't be easy.I'm sorry, Christoph, but those aren't JNA soldiers, and that older gentleman didn't get any partisan star at the end of the war... I would rather say he got a partisan bullet, but he didn't die by firearms...A couple of hints:- He's SERBIAN.- He fought in the Balkan Wars and in the IWW - and he was a good soldier, too. He also had a primal role in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but for a short time.Regards,Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piramida Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I think the man in the picture is Milan Nedić a General in the Yugoslav army and Prime Minister of the "Government of National Salvation" during WWIIIvan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I think the man in the picture is Milan Nedić a General in the Yugoslav army and Prime Minister of the "Government of National Salvation" during WWIIIvanWell done, Ivan! that's the correct answer.Here are a couple of links about Milan Nedic and the collaborating Serbia, a less known chapter of the Balkan history during IIWW:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Nedichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedic%27s_SerbiaIt's up to you now! Regards,Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 So he's one of the Bad Guys? (Note the topic and theme of this sub-forum.)We need to be careful not to get led astray by the fascists and go ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drugo Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I'm sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I'm sorry!No, a good question . . . I guess . . . just that there may not be too much sympathy for These Types here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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