Danny70 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Here are two images of the edges of the cross. The top part of the image shows the end of one arm of the cross with absolutely no trace of a seam/join (my original scans are much higher resolution than these posted, and still show no trace). The lower part shows a similar view of one of the other arms and this one looks to have a seam on the left hand side fading out towards the centre. This is one of the sections that David refered to earlier.Does anyone know the production methods of the known 1914 one-piece EK2's? were they cast or die-stamped?Regards - Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Ah this was the one for sale on the WAF estand, Danny you got a bargain I think!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny70 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Sure was Dave!At that price I couldn't let it pass!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheleznyi Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Hi.Original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheleznyi Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ben bijker Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 yes. nice original.ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 a little hard to see the core well,but i'd buy this one.joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hello!Looks good,congratulation. All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naoki matsumoto Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hi.Original?Hi,Great finish Kreuz ob Schinkel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Brought before me today as Lord of The Epsonizer by friend who obtained them all from the same WW2 G.I. Only the 1914 EK1 is mine, for size comparison!Um, you guys seem to like this kind a really really lot, huh? My first reaction on opening its case was that somebody had stuck a 1914 in a 1939 case. I've never had one of these slender versions in my paws before:No maker mark on my friend's 1939 Schinkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Screwback is marked L/13Because of the patina and curvature, I couldn't get a clear scan of the maker logo on the bottom arm, but to the eyes it's clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 And for variety, a 1 piece (?) zink (?) EK1:No maker mark that I could espy in the patina:The veteran just loved 1939 EK1s and seems to have made a specialty of collecting different types. He's the same guy who brought back the embroidered version seen previously at:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2651...;hl=embroideredand all been in his attic since he came home in 1946. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben bijker Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Nice original, they come as a thick and thin version.regards,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcross se Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I?m cruising the web for interestring items and I have foubd this X on swedish tradera.A EK II Schinkel shaped cross i WWI type isue bag with no maker mark but claimed to be identified as a Deumer cross. It?s non magnetic. The price is 2 500 SEK (? 215, ? 263). Is something to think of or just an other piece of metal?ThomasYou kan se the add on this link Tradera.com EKII Schinkel and ihave copied down pictures of the cross hereI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcross se Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I?m cruising the web for interestring items and I have foubd this X on swedish tradera.A EK II Schinkel shaped cross i WWI type isue bag with no maker mark but claimed to be identified as a Deumer cross. It?s non magnetic. The price is 2 500 SEK (? 215, ? 263). Is something to think of or just an other piece of metal?Thomas You kan se the add on this link Tradera.com EKII Schinkel and ihave copied down pictures of the cross hereI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcross se Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 This one landed at the wrong place look att 3rd Reich EK instead /Sorry /Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 (edited) Closer pictures would help. However from what I see, if it's in it's original package I would not see any problems, details seem crisp, date well defined and the ribbon looks to be of the correct weave quality and award length. I also notice that the suspension ring is distorted out of shape, this is similar to numerous EKII's I have had in my collection, which were verified as originals. I actually thought that the ring had been damaged, but it seems a particular thing with german Awards, don't know whyNot a total expert, but from my experience I would have no problem with this. Good find.regardsAlexI wait more professional commentsedit, price seems slightly excessive for an EKII IMHO Edited September 5, 2008 by Alex K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naoki matsumoto Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I?m cruising the web for interestring items and I have foubd this X on swedish tradera.A EK II Schinkel shaped cross i WWI type isue bag with no maker mark but claimed to be identified as a Deumer cross. It?s non magnetic. The price is 2 500 SEK (? 215, ? 263). Is something to think of or just an other piece of metal?Thomas You kan se the add on this link Tradera.com EKII Schinkel and ihave copied down pictures of the cross hereIHI! Good & perfects Schinkel!! I have ,too.Details is nice,too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naoki matsumoto Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I?m cruising the web for interestring items and I have foubd this X on swedish tradera.A EK II Schinkel shaped cross i WWI type isue bag with no maker mark but claimed to be identified as a Deumer cross. It?s non magnetic. The price is 2 500 SEK (? 215, ? 263). Is something to think of or just an other piece of metal?Thomas You kan se the add on this link Tradera.com EKII Schinkel and ihave copied down pictures of the cross hereIHI! Good & perfects Schinkel!! I have ,too.Details is nice,too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzergrenadier Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Pretty nice cross. Even though in the high end the condition might warrant the price in the long run if its something you got to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Although the cross looks to be an original, the background (also found on other items listed by the seller) tells me that it may come from Carsten Staegemeir (aka:"Der Afrikaheld"). If this be the case, be very careful and ask for some detailed shots of obverse/reverse before bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcross se Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Although the cross looks to be an original, the background (also found on other items listed by the seller) tells me that it may come from Carsten Staegemeir (aka:"Der Afrikaheld"). If this be the case, be very careful and ask for some detailed shots of obverse/reverse before bidding.I turned it down. For that kind of money I want to be sure, or so sure you can be. Thank?s for all advices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert pierce Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Although the cross looks to be an original, the background (also found on other items listed by the seller) tells me that it may come from Carsten Staegemeir (aka:"Der Afrikaheld"). If this be the case, be very careful and ask for some detailed shots of obverse/reverse before bidding.Good observation John, I would think the cross is original by appearance. The packet may be another matter. You should be able to find another non-magnetic Deumer from $275.00 - $300.00, and with a perfect ribbon ring. They aren't that hard to find, just takes time.Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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