No, with. There is enough proof for it out there, Speedytop might have something like a mid-1950s sale list handy...
As said, this cross is a post-WW2 copy, most likely by Souval from Vienna.
If the he was “Decorated by HRH the Duke of Albany (Regency Duke of Sax Coburg & Gotha) with the decoration “Silberne Medalles des S. Ernest” d. 20.8.10.”, the award of which you got pictures of by the Gotha archive is totally not the award your grandfather got... a shame the archives are giving wrong information!
The proper one is this here, minus the WW1 era sword clasp: http://www.ehrenzeic...bandspange.html
Unfortunately, I'm not having one of these in stock at the moment...
Check vol. 80 of DGO's member magazine for a similar combination... unfortunately in German only:
http://www.deutsche-...t-der-magazine/
Beautiful one! Definitely deserves bigger pictures... it's hard to recognize the ribbons in this stamp size pictures...
I'm sure this can be identified.
Interesting picture! I assume he received his Russian order in late or post-WW1 era by Awaloff, for fighting the Bolshevik?
Unlikely a pre-WW1 award in my eyes.
I'd think even if the swords are gold, he had more likely a knight's cross 2nd class, as the bar totally looks like a WW1 junior officer's.
Two blue ribbons with (missing) devices are most likely a Wehrmacht duo - be it Army, Navy or Luftwaffe. Other scenarios might be one Wehrmacht award with a Treudienst-Ehrenzeichen, if he switched between military and civil state service.
No way to know, if people made what they felt to do. Göring did upgrade his Zähringer Lion order from BZ3bX to BZ3bXE...
If our man was a junior officer, his Bavarian MVO would have been a BMV4X, or in very rare cases, a BMV4XKr. "Private upgrading" from BMV4X to BMV3XKr would have been very, very cheeky... but nothing's impossible!
Gold crown and sword device on Bavarian MVO/MVK ribbon stands either for the 3rd class of the order, which is unlikely here, as it went to high officers (ca. Obersts), or for the 1st class of the merit cross, which is as unlikely ... I think we have an Unteroffizier, who wanted to have his device for 3rd class rather in gold than in bronze.
So he was a NCO in WW1, but probably an officer in the "Third Reich" Luftwaffe.
Nice bar!
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