Claudius

Bravo, bravo! I have so many questions, but I will limit them. The Orden Stern von Rumänien mit Krone also has swords. Is that because, he was recognized for a gallantry action in 1909 or is the swords version awarded to military personnel? Do I understand correctly? Did he earn the Centennial Medal but did not mount it on his medal bar or ribbon bar. Are the reverses of the medal bar and ribbon bar the expected dark blue felt? Could you please post them? Are there any more details on his career? Thank you for showing it.

That is all great stuff Nick. I wait (impatiently) for your next installment.

I agree with you Matthew. IMO...AlexH if you bid on this medal bar, try to get it for the value of the medals and medal bar as a sum of the individual parts. If you win it, you will have to undo some of the medal mismatching but the result should be very pleasing. Good hunting.

Congrats. Nice bar.

Hello Haratio; I am really enjoying watching this process. Amazing, and in 1/72! I used that scale for my models when I was a kid. You know what other hobbyist would love a weekend with your completed piece. Model railroad diorama enthusiasts! I would imagine that they would love to put together some kind of ship-at-dock motif with the Munich harbored and their trains whizzing around on tracks nearby. Great work.

"got it in one."

:ninja:

I was thinking the same thing...thinking just how wonderfully interesting this bar is! :D

My information is that they are shipping out June 29th. I have high confidence that there will be many photos and details. I will wait judgment on his analysis and will be equally interested in the opinions of experts who know this field of collecting. "I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work." -Governor Tarkin, Star Wars IV

are there any clues on the back?

:love:

You are correct Nick. The ancient literature has much to fascinate us (as being so different) and yet also be altogether relevant to us today. Quod non vetat lex, hoc vetat fieri pudor –I had forgotten that phrase! No doubt because as high school boys we had no interest in being modest about our accomplishments. We had so little to be modest about, but we were certainly going to leverage all of it to attract the girls! Thank you for the complement, however while weeks ago I made a Recent Status Update on GMIC that; “At least my Latin is better... (than my children) it is only because they don’t know any. I must confess that I have not retained all that I once knew. Darn right! Old-school guys should stick together!

Wow. What a medal bar! I hope it's identifiable. Maybe we can also learn what his other awards were, pinned to his tunic or throat awards.

OK. I think I understand what you are saying Nick, but correct me if I’m wrong. With the posting of questions the protocol should be; 1) Question….2) Answer…..3) Response(such as thank you). To your question -yes I agree. It is this last part, number 3, that is often missing and is so aggravating. I know that when I originate a thread I try to respond to the comments, questions and overall appreciative statements. (I do say “try”. In the future I will be more concensious to see that I always respond.) On this thread, since I only made a single post I read your answer with acknowledgement but didn’t respond. (my error) I had thought usairforce was going to eventually provide a follow-up. But, if as you say, it is common for usairforce to not to respond, then I can understand your displeasure and why you don’t like to respond to his posts. As for me, I am glad you shared your knowledge because, as I said, I learned something I didn’t know before. Again, thank you. Regarding manners; You are either quoting from Cicero or the Bard. From my own school days I recall what Socrates opined about. I found the quote; “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” He lived in the “460’s” but the same could have been said about the 1960’s AD (and today). Regarding this medal; Res Ipsa Loquitur.

Are you suggesting that usairforce and I are lacking manners in the way we present our questions? I can’t speak on usairforce’s account but as for myself I will offer my sincere apologies if the style and abruptness of my question was wholly bereft of proper respect and manners. It was certainly not my intention to disrespect the medal or the person who owns it by the brevity of my question. Rather, I wanted to succinctly and quickly get the heart of the question that I arrived at upon seeing this medal in its present state of wear. It was a supposition of mine that the medal received an artificial buffing in order to look older than it really was. I had entertained mentioning how I thought the wear was uneven and is performed on fake medals to both look old and hide poor castings details, but I didn’t want to attract attention to something unless other members also thought the wear was a significant feature. I could have said all of this…or I could have spared everyone the electrons to form these letters and just said; “Is this example legit?” BTW: At the risk of displaying more bad manners, thank you for your informed response (post #4). I did learn something new that I didn’t know before.

Is this example legit?

I was 19 when I learned my lesson when "calling out" a dealer at his table. He used stronger language than "Wancker" I can tell you. Lenny Bruce would have been proud.

whoa...my "w%ncker" turned into "######". Sorry if "w*nker" is a curse word. As I say in my response above, "Wancker" isn't so much the use of foul language as it is a funny name.

Dear Mike; I thoroughly enjoyed reading your description and take on the recent show you attended. Your rapier jabs were (mostly, I believe) not lost on me. Perhaps a few of the cutting remarks were lost in the translation from English to English (American). I guess “######” is truly out of our lexicon as a serious insult in my area. I think if I yelled out to someone that they were a ###### they would be simultaneously confused, amused and angry. They wouldn’t know what that meant, but would figure it can’t be a good thing and would like a better explanation at the prompting of their fists. I haven’t been to real Antique Show for a long time but I am somehow satisfied that things have not changed much. Caveat emptor indeed. Overpriced genuine items and underpriced fakes together on the same tables. The high priced genuine pieces trap the buyer who recognizes good inventory but doesn’t know market prices. And the low ball fakes trap the buyer that knows market prices but not this (particular) fake. With seller and potential buyer alike cautious on making a poor transaction, the pieces languish on table for years. After seeing them time and time again I would begin to recognize the antiques, more than the sellers. I have slowing come to the conclusion to that the dealers don’t really want to move the inventory. Sure, they will sell something nice if they can make a huge profit, but they are just as happy to come to show to get out of the house, stretch their legs, and talk with their other dealer friends. It’s a lifestyle. The dealer talking that he is, at the same, both the expert and the innocent “picker” of the antique is just the Game. Evilbay is now an option, but for the purchase of an antique, I would like to handle and examine it for myself. And for that, these shows are invaluable and the dealers that bring those items are providing a great service. For finding just the right thing, for just the right spot in your home the Antique Show or Antique shop can be a real pleasure to browse.

Hello Arnim; Please don't go away angry. If you re-read your earlier post without the benefit of knowing what you intended, but only on the face value of the statement, you might see how we mis-understood your meaning. I can't speak for Stogieman, but you apologized and made an effort to explain yourself. Along with Ulsterman's additional information I think we can see where misunderstandings lead us all down this path. You have shown your civility in your reply. Allow us a chance to return civility to you.

If true the word hypocritical comes to mind. However, Arnim hasn't logged in since and he might not have had a chance to withdraw or recant his statement. IMO he should be allowed an opportunity to do so before he is pilloried further. Notably, we haven't heard from Stogieman -and IMO he shouldn't have to respond. A completely unsubstantial accusation doesn't require a protestation of innocence.

Hello Alan I don't where there is a steady source of original period ribbons either. It has always been hit-or-miss with me. In my opinion, the medals don't have to be on OEM ribbon. Modern replacement ribbon is acceptable to most collectors and doesn't detract from the value (probably because they can be removed as easily as they are put on). It certainly helps with how the medals look. I recently purchased some replacement ribbons because I didn't like how the medals looked without them. If you must have original period ribbons...I would keep searching through the dealer sites -regularly and often. And maybe send an email as well. Good Hunting!

Indeed, a strange ribbon bar. There is much here not to like about it.