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Well, he isss artillery. Now me, don't even go there.......

A Bocce ball grenade for taking out old dudes in polyester pants.

Personally I don't think we will get a one size fits all solution. Too many variables. Each cross type will have to be examined on its own merits.

Whether proof ever surfaces or not this thread does have the best compilation of FW skulls anywhere in the world.

That will provide a good comparision between an original and a fake.

Nobody?

As promised, I compared the two EK1s against the "K" marked EK2 in Wernitz. The cores and frames match, as do the marks. Trevor did an independent evaluation of the crosses and reached the same conclusion wrt the cores/frames. So, is "K" a maker mark or a control mark? How did Wernitz attribute the "K" mark to Kluge & Co.?

Not always.....

Just for you Rick.

I found this mark on an award from Saxony. I can't find who it belongs to. PS- I know it's the Half moon/ crown mark. I'm hoping it is distinct enough to attribute to a specific maker/jeweler.

Well, that is certainly better than a rash.

Perhaps the mark on the pin is the mark of the company that made the pin. Not all companies produced their own hardware just as not all maker marks are really such. Some maker marks are actually distributor marks. I just find a "control mark" answer to be a convenient dodge for "We don't know."

I'd like to see the evidence that makes it so. Now, if you have it Les you can save me from tilting at windmills.

I'm a bit dense. What is so obvious? Last I heard "it was thought" they were control marks. Control of what? Show me other Imperial era jewelry that have additional control marks please. At one point in time "it was thought" only Juncker made the Army Parachustist Badge. It was thought that badges marked with the rounded letters R.S. were all post war...... Collector's have had lots of incorrect thoughts over the years. The older collectors have a hard time letting them go, even in the face of evidence.....

A true collector. Its all in the details of how you treat the stuff. A lesser man might have chunked the non-TR stuff.....

Of, its an item then. And I was going to ask you if you had any luck rubbing medicated cream on it......

I'll do that this weekend. I don't think these marks can be so easily classified as either this or that. Unless of course there is a regulation somewhere dictating the matter.

Some days there is no telling where Chris is going. After all, he has Legionnaire's disease.

where is it......

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

And so who is "K"?

You are so impatient......

So, we have a mint, unworn cross and a well worn cross. The best part is on the underside of the pin. It is marked "K."

Reunited.

Then I found this little beauty on ebay (yeah, you guys can keep hating ebay all you want but if you know what you are looking at....) The pics were crap as usual but I took the chance.