Kev in Deva

Hallo Lorenzo, its not Silver, but its heavy it weighs 31.5 gram. Kevin in Deva.

Sometimes unusual material can be found used as backing on the larger medal Bars as well. A veteran who obviously found good use for this strip of medal ribbon, after replacing the Kyfferhauserbund medal with the Hindenberg Hindenburg Cross in 1934. Kevin in Deva P.S. Happy Now

Hallo haynau, I was not criticizing your choice, just trying to understand more with regards this Serbian medal's criteria, and possibility of being awarded to a German / Austrian person. Is there any documented evidence, photographic or written of it being awarded this way? Kevin in Deva.

With regards Serbia, they were on the Allied side in WW1. So would he rate a Serbian award Post WW1? or would he be allowed to retain a Serbian award, earned pre-1914, after 1918 on his medal bar? or were these Serbian awards made in to foreigners in WW2? Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gents, how about a bronze Tapferkeit medal of Franz-Josef? or a bronze Fortividini medal of Carol ? Or the zink version of the Merit Cross Kevin in Deva

Hallo Wessel Are the the same Chinese publications who use other peoples pictures, with no authorization and acknowledgment to copyright?? Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gents, I too was watching this one, out of curiosity, and as Stogieman noted, if there are two+ people who desire it bad enough then it will be reflected in a bidding war, after all thats the purpose of an auction Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Stogieman, a fantastic picture, thanks for sharing this gem. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gents, it would be nice to see the A.A. Cannon on post 16, jacked up off the tires, as they are going flat and the rubber will eventually split. Kevin in Deva

Hallo Verdun 16, very nice pictures, in photo 1 under the cravat, I believe is a Austrian Order of the Iron Crown. The first Cross is the Austrian Cross of Merit. The second Cross from the end could be a Romanian Order of the Crown, Civil type award. But I think there are some Foreign Awards in there too. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gordon, thanks for the information as requested the rear of the pins: Kevin in Deva

Hallo Gordon, nice badges, looking at the first one it puts me in mind of badges one sees connected to walking clubs or Mountain treaking clubs. Possible connection to a Railway mans Leisure Association With regards the winged wheel I add pictures a couple of pins I have here at home. No idea what period they date from. The word on the pin is E L O R E. No maker mark. And the symbol in the center reminds me of a campfire, Again the pin is unmarked. Kevin in Deva.

Can you supply a better close up, of the item itself, because the eye is drawn to the plastic bag in the pictures Kevin in Deva

Hallo Gents, while the last cross in the picture is very similar in looks to the Romanian Order of the Crown, it would have to be the Civil Version without Swords and the ribbon for this was a thick blue center stripe, with two thick white stripes, flanked by two thin blue stripes. It would also have to have been awarded pre-WW1 as Romania was on the Allied side 1916-1919. As far as I know, the only version of this Romanian Order with a Crown above the cross pre WW1 is a Commanders neck award and the only other version with a crown that hangs like a chest decoration is the 1938 version. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo JBFloyd many thanks for the identification, can you say what type of person would have been awarded this type of award? Hi Ed, The plastic box has some slight wear to the motif, on the word "BULGARIA" and apart from that its in pristine condition Kevin in Deva.

Close up of rear. Kevin in Deva

Close up front. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo Gents, any info on this boxed piece? Kevin in Deva

Hallo Gentlemen, during my research work for my book I came across this, its in connection with the Irish Military, who were in service during "THE EMERGENCY" as World War Two was known in the Republic of Ireland. I have not opened the envelope which contains this research in 5 years as its was to the WW2 period, but contained some reprints in the 1940 paper of incidents that happened to Mayo men in service of the British Army in World War 1, which is in context with my book (work in progress) about the British Military circa 1750 - 1922. in the West of Ireland. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1940's ARMY ALLOWANCES SCALE.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Particulars Of Pay Of Men Serving In The National Forces.The following particulars are contained in a pamphlet issued by the Department of Defence regarding the pay and allowances of the Defence Forces:- PAY - OFFICERS. OFFICERS OF THE GENERAL RESERVE OF OFFICERS WHEN ON PERMANENT SERVICE: An Officer of the General Reserve of Officers when on permanent service id granted, from the date of his reporting for duty to the date of termination of such duty, the rate of pay of which he was in receipt immediately prior to his retirement from the Permanent Force. The rates of pay for Officers of the Permanent Force are as follows:- Rank.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daily Rates of Pay. (In Pounds, Shillings and Pence.) Colonel on appointment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 8 0 Colonel after two years service in the rank . . . . 1 10 0 Colonel after five years service in the rank . . . . 1 12 0 Major on appointment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 4 0 Major after two years service in the rank . . . . 1 6 0 Major after five years service in the rank . . . . . 1 8 0 Commandant on appointment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 0 0 Commandant after two years service in the rank . . . 1 8 0 Commandant after five years service in the rank . . 1 4 0 Captain on appointment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 14 0 Captain after two years service in the rank . . . . . 0 16 0 Captain after five years service in the rank. . . . . . 0 18 0 Lieutenant on appointment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 10 0 Lieutenant after two years service in the rank . . . . 0 12 0 Lieutenant after five years service in the rank . . . . 0 14 0 Second-Lieutenant on appointment. . . . . . . . . . . . 0 8 0 Second-Lieutenant after two years service in the rank 0 9 0 Second-Lieutenant after five years service in the ranks. 0 10 0 OFFICERS OF THE RESERVE - THE VOLUNTEER FORCE WHEN ON PERMANENT SERVICE. Rank.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daily Rates of Pay. (In Pounds, Shillings and Pence.) Second-Lieutenants.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 8 0 Lieutenants. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 10 0 Captain. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 14 0 Extra Pay of the Professional Soldier. In addition to the daily rates of pay, Medical Officers, Dental and Veterinary officers, Legal, Engineer, Ordnance and Signal Officers appointed to commissioned rank on or subsequent to the 1st of December 1938, may be paid the following Schedule. Additional Pay per Annum: Medical Officers :- Second-Lieutenants . . . . . . . . . 150 Pounds. Lieutenant to Colonel . . . . . . . . 120 Pounds. Dental and Veterinary Officers :- Second Lieutenants . . . . . . . . . 125 Pounds. Lieutenant to Colonel . . . . . . . . 120 Pounds. Legal, Engineer, Ordnance and Signal Officers:- Second Lieutenants . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100 Pounds. Lieutenant to Colonel. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80 Pounds. ALLOWANCES - OFFICERS. Lodging, Fuel and Light Allowances:- Married Officers. A Married Officer of the Permanent Forces or a Married Officer of the Reserve of Officers on permanent service who is not provided with married quarters shall be entitled to lodging, fuel and light allowance at the rate of 7/- a day provided that in the case of officers of the Reserve of Officers, marriage took place before the 1st of July, 1940. Lodging, Fuel and Light Allowances :- Widower Officers. Lodging, Fuel and Light allowances at the rate of 7/- a day may be issued to widower officers, with family, residing out of barracks, with permission, until the youngest boy has reached the age of 18 years and the youngest girl has reached the age of 21 years, provided that in the case of widower officers of the Reserve of Officers on permanent service the marriage took place before the 1st of July, 1940. PAY - NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICERS AND PRIVATES. PAY OF NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICERS - The Permanent Force. The Reserve of Men Classes "A" and "B" and the Reserve, the Volunteer Force:- Rank. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Rates per diem. (In Shillings and Pence). Sergeant-Major . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6. Battalion Quartermaster Sergeant . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 6. Company Sergeant . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 0. Company Quartermaster Sergeant . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 6. Sergeant . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 0. Corporal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 0. PAY OF PRIVATES :- The Permanent Force and The Reserve of Men, Classes "A" and "B". Rank. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Rates per diem. (In Shillings and Pence). Private, Class I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 6. Private, Class I I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3. Private, Class I I I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0. Privates who enlisted in the Forces prior to the 14th October, 1926 receive 6d. per diem in addition to the above rates. PAY OF PRIVATES:- The Reserve - The Volunteer Force:- Rank. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Rates per diem. (In Shillings and Pence). Private, Class I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3. Privates, Classes I I, I I I, and I V. . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0 Note:- Men enlisting in the Permanent Force for the duration of the present emergency who have previous military experience may be graded as Privates Class I I., and paid at the rate of 2/3d. a day from the date of enlistment. ADDITIONAL PAY. Additional pay at varying rates may be granted to non-commissioned officers and men of the Permanent Force, The Volunteer Force, employed as clerks, tradesmen. etc,. according to their qualifications. MARRIAGE AND CHILDREN'S ALLOWANCES. Payable to married and widower non-commissioned officers and men of the Permanents Force (including men enlisted for the duration of the present emergency) and to married and widower non-commissioned officers and men of the Reserve of Men Classes "A" and "B" and The Reserve - The Volunteer Force on permanent service, provided that in all cases marriage took place before the 1st of July, 1940. Allowances - - - - - - - -- - - - - Rates per diem. (In Shillings and Pence). Wife's Allowance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 0. One Child . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 0. Two Children . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 6. Three Children . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 9. Four Children . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0. For each additional Child . . . . . . . . . 0 3. RATION ALLOWANCES. Officers and Men are entitled to the free issue of rations. Where rations are not issued, Ration Allowance may be paid at rates which vary from time to time. The daily rate of Ration Allowances at present payable are as follows:- Officers 2/- N.C.O.'s and Men - 1/5d or 1/8d according to circumstances. I hope you find it interesting, all to often I have tended to focus on the Medals & Militaria, but this gives an insight into how much real "Brass" the soldier was getting for his service. Kevin in Deva.

Hallo noor, Nice bars I cant tell what colour the second ribbon is on the first bar, its very dark any chance of a better picture. Number 3: looks like: Bavarian MVK III Class, Prussian Iron Cross II Class, Bavarian Military Service Medal. Number 4: possibly is for a Anhalt-Gesamtstaat Friedrich kreuz 1914-18 an band fur Nichtk?mpfer * Combatant. If Turkish it would be last on the bar as a foreign award. EDIT * for Combatant as stated by pinpon590 read the wrong line in my ribbon book Number 5: carries a Prussian Red Cross ribbon but the swords indicate a combatant, early retirement from the war, who then helped out in the red Cross? Kevin in Deva

Hallo Christer , can you post better pictures (close-up) and a picture of the rear, please?? Kevin in Deva.

Err....... a three-piece Iron Cross Ist Class Kevin in Deva.

or a Rin Tin Tin medal in bitter dark chocolate, honestly its easy to see the person who designed this and the people who approved it's design have no idea what the victims went through back in WW2!!! Bad enough then they survivors are expected to pay for the medal Kevin in Deva.

For Belgian Civilian War Wounded ?? Will it be given by the Government or do the recipients have to buy it themselves at their own expence ?? Kevin in Deva.

It comes under "Patriotika," its not an official military piece, probably, bought by a soldier to give his Mum or girlfriend etc..etc.. Kevin in Deva.