Christian L Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 surfing the internet i found this ugly medal on ebay! and now, tell me who is the seller ... yes, the famous rarit?tensammlerclub! i would say, that this medal is a cast copy - because the seller states it as a silver example with 835 mark in the ring. please let me know what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I'd be willing to bet the devil is in the details or rather the lack of them. One of the reasons I like Imperial is quality of work and the crispness of the detail. It may be the photo but the details look soft as if it were a casting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted June 20, 2005 Author Share Posted June 20, 2005 yes, its some kind of soft like you said - especially the letters near the ring are :speechless-smiley-004: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 And just to make sure that you don't miss what else he always has on offer, his permanent site is at http://www.ordensammler.com/If nothing else, it is a good showcase of what to avoid./David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 The ribbon and medal seems to be manufacture yesterday. That's my opinionChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I think he could now trading under this name raritaetensammler20 but am not sure.Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 And cetra2003 is either a previous victim unloading some his nasty fakes or it is another one of his pseudonyms:http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...ssPageName=WDVWhttp://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...ssPageName=WDVWhttp://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...ssPageName=WDVW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I have one that is silver hallmarked on the back.Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Don,I cannot comment on the hallmark, but the general details of your medal and that offered by raritaetensammlerclub are worlds apart./David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Ain't no substitute for craftsmanship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 (edited) As far as I am concerned, Cetra2003 is definitely one of the outlets for raritaetensammlerclub's offerings.Take a look at the following auctions, all of which features bad items offered by our favourite Imperial faker on German eBay:http://cgi.ebay.de/Eisernes-Kreuz-1-Klasse...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Erinnerungskreuz-Treuen...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Verwundetenabz-1914-in-...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Jubilaeumsspange-25-zum...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Dienstauszeichnung-Bade...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Verwundetenabz-der-Mari...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Verdienstkreuz-Kriegshi...1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.de/Erinnerungskreuz-Koenig...1QQcmdZViewItemCaveat emptor! Edited September 13, 2005 by David Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 David,the links above are not working.Gerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 It seems that the high number of these hessian bravery medalls awarded during ww1 led to a continued drop in it's silver content. To an extent that by 1917 it had dropped by 25% from the prewar levels and continued to drop untill 1918, when a version was awarded that was made out of silver covered "kriegsmetall". So I guess that hallmark could give a clue as to when Dons medall was made and awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Unfortunately, the links I posted above seem to work fine in preview mode, but are chewed beyond recognition when the post is submitted.To make things easier, and so that you can track this seller's auctions in future, the name of the seller is cetra2003. The link below may work:http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZcetra2003The auctions currently running are:#6207165435#6207178557#6207181834#6207187922#6207193440#6207201959#6207207411#6207211479Take a look as the images will soon be gone./David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 You need not look much further than this to see the quality of these auctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted September 13, 2005 Author Share Posted September 13, 2005 the bad thing is, that they will fool new collectors and flood the marked with ######!christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Tempest Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Here is mine, I think it may be late war Kriegsmetal, either that or I should get some silver polish out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Tempest Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rujab Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 And Here is one of Mine with Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rujab Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 and more Now that's a rare ribbon device, a first for me anyway. Do you have the matching medal bar? Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rujab Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hi Matt Unfortunately no. Rudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rujab Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 noch einer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Enfield Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) thanks for the info, I have just started collecting and the difference between the original and the "more recent example" as shown in this article are worlds apart. I will certainly be more cautious on ebay and research more thoroughly before bidding. Edited April 29, 2012 by Lee Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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