Yugoslavia Yugoslavian Partisan Stars

[paja]

11 hours ago, Mister No said:

I did not test it for silver only for gold. And after that, it was enough to me. It's no longer with me, I only have photos.

Many thanks for the images! Look pretty much the same as the "golden" stars, I can't make out the number, is it 1414?

11 hours ago, Mister No said:

He did not buy it directly in IKOM, but from a man working in IKOM. Full bucket.
Order of merit for the people of the second and third class. Order partisan stars of the third class. Brand new packed in nylon bags with ribbon.

I will open a separate topic about "shinny" IKOM decorations today, thanks for the information.

[Eric Gaumann]

OK boys, the results are in regarding the content of my 'shinny' PS3!! 

 

As you can seen in the photo the content is as follows:

Star body: Ag - 93.51%, Cu - 6.39%

Screwpost: Ag - 90.21%. Cu - 9.79%

Screw-plate: Ag - 4.15%, Zn - 34.99%, Cu - 60.86% 

Ag = silver, Cu = copper, Zn = zinc.

As explained to me the star body and post are indeed 90+% silver.  The discrepancy in Ag content between the body and the post was deemed as 'wear and usage'.  I take that to mean the silver plated screw-plate rubbed off a bit onto the post.  Or perhaps the posts were from a different casting with slightly different composition.  The screw-plate is actually silver plated.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Eric Gaumann
screw PLATE silver plated (not "screwpost")

[paja]

Excellent!  And much sooner than three weeks  So the purity of the silver (body) is even higher than .900, it's closer to .950 and the screw plate is made out of silvered brass.
Many thanks for testing the order from your collection and posting the results!

Edited November 9, 2017 by paja

[BalkanCollector]

Thank you very much for posting the results! 

Can we now say it's a legit piece since it checked out to be .900+ silver?

[Eric Gaumann]

12 hours ago, paja said:

Many thanks for testing the order from your collection and posting the results!

6 hours ago, BalkanCollector said:

Thank you very much for posting the results! 

You are very welcome!  This was a fun adventure.  I don't think I've ever seen anything like this done before.  I want an Order of the People's Army 3rd; maybe I should buy one of the un-marked versions and see if it is Tombak or not?

 

6 hours ago, BalkanCollector said:

Can we now say it's a legit piece since it checked out to be .900+ silver?

Maybe?   One never does know for sure, but I feel more confident now than before the test.

Not a bad investment in silver, either.  I bought mine on US Ebay for $20 (plus $4 or $5 s&h).  Spot silver price is about $11.  What is the weight on the Mondvor and Ikom PS3s?  I guessed about 22g.  (Both my scales are broken.)

[new world]

Excellent work Eric! Thank you for doing so!

[Daffy Duck]

Mine Monodvor PS3 has 21gr.

Once again many thanks for your effort.

[gerd vantyghem]

Very interesting research by Eric! Thank you very much. Good to know that the 3rd class IKOM star are actually made of silver. The question remains if they are legid. And what to think of these now :-p

 

[gerd vantyghem]

Here are my documented stars so far  

1. 3rd class (2480), with replacement screw plate

 

 

2. 3rd class (4999) with box.

2nd Class (1543) 

 

That's all folks!  

Hope you like them too

[paja]

3 hours ago, gerd vantyghem said:

Here are my documented stars so far  

What an amazing collection of Yugoslav Partisan Stars, we don't see many documented orders, thanks for the photos! 
It's interesting to see that two out of those three stars were awarded to Soviet recipients.

3 hours ago, gerd vantyghem said:

1. 3rd class (2480), with replacement screw plate

Does that replacement screw plate look like the one for the Soviet 1st class? I ask because we already saw two stars like that in this topic, both awarded to Soviets, numbers 2376 and 2394 - pretty close to 2480.
#2376 LINK
#2394 LINK

Edited November 12, 2017 by paja

[BalkanCollector]

Beautiful collection Gerd! Thanks for sharing the photos with us!

[gerd vantyghem]

Yes, the screw plate resembles a 1st class screw plate extremely well, but as I recall it was not entirely the same as my 1st class screw plate. I can make a side by side photo next week. But, indeed it's quite a coincidence... Maybe all 3rd class stars in that range got issued with this type of screw plate? 

Thanks for your kind words :-) Invite me in Belgrade for a beer, so we can talk about Partizan stars! lol  

Kind regards,

Gerd V

 

3 hours ago, paja said:

What an amazing collection of Yugoslav Partisan Stars, we don't see many documented orders, thanks for the photos! 
It's interesting to see that two out of those three stars were awarded to Soviet recipients.

Does that replacement screw plate look like the one for the Soviet 1st class? I ask because we already saw two stars like that in this topic, both awarded to Soviets, numbers 2376 and 2394 - pretty close to 2480.
#2376 LINK
#2394 LINK

 

 

Oh, before I forgot. I cannot read cyrillian. How do you know a star was offered to a Sovjet serviceman? 

3 hours ago, paja said:

It's interesting to see that two out of those three stars were awarded to Soviet recipients.

 

[paja]

I was thinking the same thing, perhaps a certain number left the factory with that type of screw nuts. Apart from those three I've seen one more, #235X, unfortunately I can't remember where.
If you find yourself in Belgrade we should go testing Serbian beers  

The names of the recipients gave them away 
3rd class #2480 was awarded to Akhmetov Galim (Ахметов Галим), guards lieutenant.
2nd class #1543 was awarded to Ilchenko Petar Danilovich (Илченко Петар Данилович - Serbian; Ильченко Петр Данилович - Russian?), guards major.

Edited November 13, 2017 by paja

[Eric Gaumann]

I did a forced patina on my PS3 since I found a very cheap, easy and chemical-free method of doing so. Before and after images provided.

Not quite a natural patination, which may have been due to not cleaning the materials before the procedure, but I like the new look.  And it will get better over time, too.

PM me for the secret method.  If I know you and trust you I will share it.

[Daffy Duck]

This is my humble contribution.

Edited November 17, 2017 by Daffy Duck

[Daffy Duck]

and one more..

 

Edited November 17, 2017 by Daffy Duck

[BalkanCollector]

Very nice Daffy!

[gerd vantyghem]

On ‎17‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 14:21, Daffy Duck said:

and one more..

 

Very nice pieces, Daffy! 

kind regards,
Gerd V

 

[new world]

Anyone got large award documents for these stars?

[paja]

Looks like they are scarce, the only one I remember seeing was for the 1st class order awarded in the sixties.

[joseprevolt]

Hi! I show you some of my  Yugosalvian Partisan Stars( and some others...):

[BalkanCollector]

Remarkable collection Josep!

[joseprevolt]

On 5/3/2018 at 17:39, BalkanCollector said:

Remarkable collection Josep!

Thank you for you coment! And the last photo that I forgot to share

[Daffy Duck]

Great collection indeed. I am just puzzled why did they put dots after roman numbers?

[BalkanCollector]

Because it's an ordinal number. I'm not sure what did the numbering system look like in Yugoslavia but today in Croatia we put a dot after ordinal numbers.