House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

The Lt dR Hellmich from IR 19 might be Philipp, from Bremen/Soest, acc. to VL. 

[webr55]

Lt dR Holzkämper is Rudolf Heinrich Wilhelm Holzkämper, in Stammrollen Bayern. 1916 versetzt zur FlgAbt 13. 

Born 2.7.1884 in Krentrupperhagen/Lippe. 

[Glenn J]

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5 hours ago, webr55 said:

Hptm Fessel from IR 150 is Kurt Fessel. Lived in Allenstein in 1932 as Major aD. 

 

That is confirmed also by his entry in the 1904 Allenstein Adreßbuch where is listed as Leutnant Kurt Fessel

 

Regards

Glenn

[webr55]

For the Major Hübner who got the HHOX in mid 1918, I mainly see these three possibilities: 

 

1) most likely, in my view: 1914 Hptm in Kriegsschule Cassel, later Kdr RIR 83, ended the war as OTL aD. First name seems to be Hans.

 

2) Georg, in 1914 Hptm in IR 154. From "Ostrowy/Russland". 

 

3) another 1914 Hptm, OTL aD, from FAR 71. 

 

 

Hptm dL Hülsz from RIR 272 is Louis Hülsz. In VL Oct 1915 as Olt dL, from Coburg. 1914 in Landwehrbezirk Berlin I. He was Ingenieur with the Glühlampenfabrik W.E. Jantzen and found in address books Berlin as Dipl.-Ing. in the 1920s and 30s. In 1938, he is in Augsburg as Fabrikdirektor (at Wolfram), and found there until 1951 at least.

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by webr55

[Glenn J]

56 minutes ago, webr55 said:

1) most likely, in my view: 1914 Hptm in Kriegsschule Cassel, later Kdr RIR 83, ended the war as OTL aD. First name seems to be Hans.

 

Correct as confirmed in the Offizier-Stammliste of IR 55.

 

FAR 71 Hübner is Fritz (1913 Graudenz Adreßbuch).

 

Regards

Glenn

[Dave Danner]

13 hours ago, webr55 said:

Lt dR Holzkämper is Rudolf Heinrich Wilhelm Holzkämper, in Stammrollen Bayern. 1916 versetzt zur FlgAbt 13. 

Born 2.7.1884 in Krentrupperhagen/Lippe. 

 

It is Krentruperhagen, Oerlinghausen. Holzkämper received the LK on 29.6.1915.

 

[Dave Danner]

9 hours ago, webr55 said:

For the Major Hübner who got the HHOX in mid 1918, I mainly see these three possibilities: 

 

1) most likely, in my view: 1914 Hptm in Kriegsschule Cassel, later Kdr RIR 83, ended the war as OTL aD. First name seems to be Hans.

 

2) Georg, in 1914 Hptm in IR 154. From "Ostrowy/Russland". 

 

3) another 1914 Hptm, OTL aD, from FAR 71.

 

8 hours ago, Glenn J said:

Correct as confirmed in the Offizier-Stammliste of IR 55.

 

FAR 71 Hübner is Fritz (1913 Graudenz Adreßbuch).

 

Regards

Glenn

 

Hübner, Fritz
*8.4.1872
Hptm., FAR 71, 18.6.15 Major, 26.5.18 zur Disposition gestellt und zum Bezirkoffizier beim Landwehrbezirk Thorn ernannt, z.Zt. in der II. Ersatz-Abteilung des FAR 71, 1920 Char. als Oberstleutnant a.D., 1920-1921 Regierungsrat beim Versorgungsamt, Kriegsministerium.

 

Hübner, Johann Georg Adolf
*3.7.1874 in Ostrowy, Rußland, †10.5.1939 in Liegnitz
Hptm., IR 154, 15.7.18 Major

 

Fritz only listed "EK1 & 2, u.a." among his decorations, so he can be ruled out. Georg was not a Major in time, so he too is out.

 

So you are correct as to Hans.

Hübner, Hans Friedrich
*31.1.1871 in Wittenberg
Hptm., Kriegsschule Cassel (Unif. IR 55), ins Feld mit RIR 83, 28.11.14 Major, xx.11.14 Fhr. III./RIR 252, 14.2.15-xx.xx.xx Rgts.Fhr. RIR 252, 18.8.17 Kdr. I./RIR 83, 19.3.18 Kdr. RIR 83, 22.6.18 erkrankt, Oberstleutnant a.D.

 

 

 

 

[webr55]

Great joint work!

 

Here is another one: For the Major Jacobs who received the HHOX in mid 1918, there are basically two possibilities:

 

1) Friedrich Karl Rudolf Jacobs, from IR 357 (originally IR 64), born 17.6.1875 in Siernik Kreis Schubin, KIA as Major 21.10.1918.

 

2) Hptm Jacobs, in 1914 Adj. 21. InfBrig, Unif. IR 82, Major aD, couldn't find his first name

 

[Dave Danner]

The Stammliste of IR 82 lists Hubert Jacobs' war decorations as "E.K. II, E.K. I, Sächs. Meining. V.K., Oe.M.V.3 m. K.D., Eis. Halbm., Verw.-Abz."

[Dave Danner]

Hptm.d.R. Mock from IR 56 received the HOH3X on 11.10.1917.  He is:

 

Mock, Adolf
*11.9.1880 in Wesel
- Leutnant d.R. des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 56, 24.11.1914 Oberleutnant d.R., zur Zeit im Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 56, 21.1.1916 Hauptmann d.R., zur Zeit ebenda, 2-mal verwundet, Hauptmann d.R.a.D.

- Regierungs-Landmesser in Siegburg, 1940 Regierungs- und Vermessungsrat in Koblenz.

[Dave Danner]

Several Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 15 officers received the HOH3X on 17.4.1918. One was the Regiments-Adjutant, Lt.d.R. Anton Jacobsen. He had earlier received the SLK in 1916.

 

According to the regimental history, "Zum Ritterkreuz des Hohenzollernschen Hausordens mit Schwertern gab das I. Batl. die Lts. Petersen, Lindau und Leßmann ... ein."

 

There were two Petersens in the regiment, but the I. Bataillon officer was the Bataillons-Adjutant, Lt.d.R. Hans Sophus Petersen. Lindau was Wilhelm, whom we already have, He was Kompanie-Führer of the 1. Kompanie and later Bataillons-Adjutant.

 

I am unsure about Lt.d.R. Leßmann, the Kompanie-Führer of the 1. M.G.-Kompanie. Unlike the others, no HOH3X appears to have been gazetted for him. His might be a mistake in the regimental history.

 

 

[webr55]

1 hour ago, Dave Danner said:

Several Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 15 officers received the HOH3X on 17.4.1918. One was the Regiments-Adjutant, Lt.d.R. Anton Jacobsen. He had earlier received the SLK in 1916.

 

According to the regimental history, "Zum Ritterkreuz des Hohenzollernschen Hausordens mit Schwertern gab das I. Batl. die Lts. Petersen, Lindau und Leßmann ... ein."

 

There were two Petersens in the regiment, but the I. Bataillon officer was the Bataillons-Adjutant, Lt.d.R. Hans Sophus Petersen. Lindau was Wilhelm, whom we already have, He was Kompanie-Führer of the 1. Kompanie and later Bataillons-Adjutant.

 

I am unsure about Lt.d.R. Leßmann, the Kompanie-Führer of the 1. M.G.-Kompanie. Unlike the others, no HOH3X appears to have been gazetted for him. His might be a mistake in the regimental history.

 

 

Sounds to me like Leßmann got submitted but didn't receive it. 

 

 

[webr55]

The Lt Jaegerhuber is Friedrich Jaegerhuber from IR 97, Olt aD after WW1, acc. to VL born 2.2.1882 in Kirchbuch, lived in München as Major in the 1930s, then found 1939 in Ansbach as Arbeitsführer and RAD-Meldeamtsleiter. Rick mentioned him briefly years ago, when I found the RAD DALs:

 

 

Not to be confused with Bavarian Hptm Friedrich Jaegerhuber from FlA 48, orig. Bayr. IR 18, born Reichenhall 1878, died in a crash in 1915.

[webr55]

Hptm dR Jancovius (very rare name) is Leopold Jancovius, originally from FAR 6. 

Rittergutsbesitzer in Nieder Schellendorf, Liegnitz, listed in the Schlesisches Güter-Adreßbuch 1937. 

[webr55]

The Major aD "von Jarotzki" from IR 45 is Georg von Jarotzky. In ERL under aD officers, in LdstIR 4, originally from IR 45. In VL Sep 1918 as wounded, born 10.6.XX in Görlitz. 

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

For the Lt dR Jenewein from IR 76, who got the HHOX around Oct 1917, I find these four candidates, going by VL:

 

Fritz, IR 180, born 23.5.1887 in Vinningen

Grigo, born 26.7.XX in Neunkirchen, listed as KIA in May 1918

Ludwig, born 16.5.XX in Peine/Hannover, listed as KIA in Nov 1917

Walter, born 5.12.XX in Hückeswagen/Lennep

 

Is there any connection known for one of them to IR 76?

 

 

[Mattyboy]

Hptm dR Grimm is 'probably' Werner Grimm (1883-1942) from 5 Garde-Feldartillerie Regiment. He is mentioned in the WW1 wound lists and his EK1 was reported in the Posener Tageblatt on 13 July 1915. 

[Mattyboy]

The Major Strempel is Arthur VON Strempel (1872-1962). He is also mentioned in the verlustlisten. 

[Glenn J]

3 hours ago, webr55 said:

For the Lt dR Jenewein from IR 76, who got the HHOX around Oct 1917, I find these four candidates, going by VL:

 

Fritz, IR 180, born 23.5.1887 in Vinningen

Grigo, born 26.7.XX in Neunkirchen, listed as KIA in May 1918

Ludwig, born 16.5.XX in Peine/Hannover, listed as KIA in Nov 1917

Walter, born 5.12.XX in Hückeswagen/Lennep

 

Is there any connection known for one of them to IR 76?

 

 

Walter Jenewein was commissioned as a Leutnant d.R. In IR 76 on 22.3.15.

 

Regards

Glenn

[Dave Danner]

On 10/08/2022 at 11:26, webr55 said:

The Major aD "von Jarotzki" from IR 45 is Georg von Jarotzky. In ERL under aD officers, in LdstIR 4, originally from IR 45. In VL Sep 1918 as wounded, born 10.6.XX in Görlitz.

Georg von Jarotzky was a Fabrikbesitzer in Insterburg and Major d.L.a.D., previously an active officer in IR 45.

 

Jarotzky, Georg Feodor Jaroslav von, *10.6.1863 in Görlitz

 

11.02.1882 Sekondelieutenant
14.05.1890 Premierlieutenant
27.01.1896 Hauptmann (12.09.1895*)
22.03.1903 der Abschied bewilligt under Anstellung bei den Offizieren der Landwehr-Infanterie II
19.11.1909 der Abschied bewilligt
16.06.1913 Charakter als Major d.L.a.D.
10.05.1915 Patent seines Dienstgrades, z.Zt. Bataillons-Kommandeur im LIR 4

 

18.01.1903 Roter-Adlerorden 4. Klasse

22.03.1897 Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtnismedaille

 

* He had an earlier Patent in the 1908 rank list of Reserve and Landwehr officers, so either an error or he may have been vorpatentiert at some point.

 

5 hours ago, Glenn J said:

Walter Jenewein was commissioned as a Leutnant d.R. In IR 76 on 22.3.15.

 

Regards

Glenn

Walter Jenewein was a Kaufmann in Hamburg. As an IR 76 officer and Hamburg resident, he doubtless also had the Hamburg Hanseatenkreuz.

 

Ludwig Jenewein was in IR 30 and IR 459, †20.9.1917.
Grigo Jenewein was in FußAR 10 and RFußAR 7, †8.4.1918.
Fritz Jenewein was a Württemberger and was in IR 180 and IR 475.

Edited August 11, 2022 by Dave Danner

[Dave Danner]

9 hours ago, Mattyboy said:

Hptm dR Grimm is 'probably' Werner Grimm (1883-1942) from 5 Garde-Feldartillerie Regiment. He is mentioned in the WW1 wound lists and his EK1 was reported in the Posener Tageblatt on 13 July 1915. 

 

Werner Grimm received the HOH3X on 18.8.17 as a Hptm.d.R. in the 5.GFAR.

 

Grimm, Werner Ludwig, *15.6.1883 auf Hof Kreien bei Lübz, Mecklenburg

Landwirt auf Hof Bobzin bei Lübz; Lt.d.R. (Schwerin) der Feldart.-Schießschule (Pat. 10.4.06), 24.12.14 OLt.d.R., z.Zt. im 6.GFAR, 4.7.16 Hptm.d.R., z.Zt. im 5.GFAR, 3-mal verwundet; HOH3X (18.8.17), MMV1, ÖM3K, VAw

 

His brother Karl also received the HOH3X and MMV1:

 

Grimm, Karl Heinrich, *10.4.1889 auf Hof Kreien bei Lübz, Mecklenburg
Lt.d.R. (Schwerin) des FAR 14, 20.4.18 OLt.d.R., RFAR 21
HOH3X (27.9.18), MMV1

 

Their oldest brother Adolf received the MMV2:

 

Grimm, Adolf Gottfried, *29.11.1880 auf Hof Kreien bei Lübz, Mecklenburg, †1968

Gutsbesitzer auf Augustfelde bei Zuckers; OLt.d.L.-Inf. II (Schlawe), früher von d. Res. des FR 86, 27.1.15 Hptm.d.L., z.Zt. im IR 141, 1916 in Gefangenschaft geraten.
EK2, LD2, MMV2

 

A Leutnant der Landwehr also received the MMV2 while with the Gericht of the stellv. IX.AK. This was likely the Lt.d.L.-Inf. I (Rostock) promoted on 8.8.15 while in the Ersatz-Bataillon of RIR 76. I can't say for certain, but I think this was their fourth brother, Gottfried Karl Grimm, *14.9.1887 auf Hof Kreien.

 

 

 

 

 

[Dave Danner]

I don't have a first name or any further information, but I can add one more award for the Lt.d.R. Klein in Füsilier-Regiment Nr. 33. This was from a 1941/42 Mitteilung of the FR 33 Offizierverein.

 

[webr55]

9 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

I don't have a first name or any further information, but I can add one more award for the Lt.d.R. Klein in Füsilier-Regiment Nr. 33. This was from a 1941/42 Mitteilung of the FR 33 Offizierverein.

 

 

Very interesting. Of course, Klein is not exactly an uncommon name, even if you limit yourself to only one regiment. Still, I had a look into VL and found - no officer Klein from FR 33.

However, there was one candidate who might fit: Wilhelm Klein, from Landsberg/Pr. Eylau, wounded in Nov 1914 as Vizefw dR. Any chance that he was promoted?

 

[Glenn J]

1 hour ago, webr55 said:

 

However, there was one candidate who might fit: Wilhelm Klein, from Landsberg/Pr. Eylau, wounded in Nov 1914 as Vizefw dR. Any chance that he was promoted?

 

 

Indeed he was; commissioned into FR 33 on 27.1.16.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

 

[Mattyboy]

Not sure if we have mentioned him already - Ernst Werner. From Jenaische Zeitung 15.09.1918.