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    House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed


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    Höver was from Detmold, but I couldn't find his first name.

     

    Lippische Landes-Zeitung, 26.7.18

     

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    This might be a new one: Wilhelm Krehmke from IR 131, died in 1923. He is in VL as Lt, from Spandau. 

     

    Lippische Landes-Zeitung, 17.4.23

     

    krehmke.jpg

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    The Oberleutnant der Reserve Wiedemann in RIR 99 who received the HOH3X on 30.9.1918 should be the officer from IR 136; I./RIR 99 was formed by IR 136 and there were no other infantry Leutnants d.R. in the 1914 Rangliste.

     

    Wiedemann, Heinrich Wilhelm
    *29.11.1881 in Buxtehude, Jork

     

    1.4.1908 Realschuloberlehrer in Wilhelmsburg
    1.4.1909 Oberlehrer an der Humboldtschule in Linden
    1.4.1912 Realgymn.Oberlehrer in Grunewald
    1.4.1923 pensioniert

     

    1.4.1907-1.4.1908 Einjährig-Freiwilliger

    27.1.1912 Leutnant der Reserve (Hannover, später III Berlin) des IR 136
    3.5.1917 Oberleutnant der Reserve

     

     

     

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    Another teacher:

     

    Hauschild, Hermann Wilhelm Karl
    *6.11.1885 in Brüssow, Greifswald
    gef. 4.7.1918 bei Morlancourt


    Volksschullehrer in Stettin
    7.8.1915 Lt.d.R. (Stettin) im Brigade-Ersatz-Bataillon Nr. 7
    Führer der 6. Kompanie des Reserve-Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 232

     

    The regimental history of RIR 232 says Hauschild was with that regiment since the beginning of the Serbian campaign in October 1915. I'm not sure how he went from a Pomeranian unit to a Prussian Saxon one (II./RIR 232's parent formation was FR 36), but I suppose this was not uncommon. He received the HOH3X on 31.1.1918.

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    15 hours ago, Daniel Krause said:

    Hello Friends,

     

    thanks a LOT for the additional Info.

    This thread started in 2007 and still, we are not ready.

    I THINK we are less than 50 people short of being complete.

     

    Best,

    Daniel

     

    Daniel, I am sorry but I have to say this: we cannot go on for another 10 or 15 years. We have put a lot of effort into this, and there is so much new information we have found, it has to go out and should not be withheld from the public. We now find only very few new cases per year, rather like 5-10, at maximum. That would take us another 5-10 years, at least. And we don't even know if that total number you mention is anywhere near correct. 

     

    Again, sorry, but someone has to bring this up. 

     

    Chris

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    Maj.d.R.a.D. Karl Schönberg, who was awarded the HOH3X on 11.7.1917, is another example of annoying and inconsistent German spelling. He spelled his own name as Schönberg, and his brothers - Oberstleutnant Otto Schönberg and Maj.d.R.a.D. Franz Schönberg - also used that spelling, but Karl's name is "Schoenberg" in Prussian Army sources (Ranglisten, Militärwochenblatt).

     

    Schoenberg, Karl Friedrich Otto

    *7.3.1862 in Langgoslin, Obornik

    Gutsbesitzer in Wasmerslage, Osterburg

     

    17.10.1883 Sekondelieutenant d.R. des IR 46

    15.07.1893 Premierlieutenant d.R.

    15.06.1899 Hauptmann d.R.

    18.08.1913 der Abschied bewilligt

    28.08.1914 Kommandeur des III./RIR 227 (bis 26.12.1915)

    24.10.1914 verwundet

    27.01.1915 Charakter als Major d.R.a.D.

    26.12.1915 zum II. Ersatz-Bataillon des FR 36

    11.02.1916 Kommandeur des III./IR 153

    04.10.1917 verwundet

     

    Known decorations: HOH3X, EK1&2, LD1, EH2bX, VAs

     

    A brief description from the RIR 227 Regimentsgeschichte:

    SchoenbergKarl2.jpg.edf20bbda8bbdd73d344e0693a84c272.jpg

     

    Photo from the IR 153 Regimentsgeschichte:

    SchoenbergKarl3.jpg.e06e6bc9f3c92c4daa2e526801fbd5cf.jpg

     

    Photo from the RIR 227 Regimentsgeschichte:

    SchoenbergKarl1.jpg.eb3dd319548c63b681bd42a6d4be9690.jpg

     

     

     

     

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    On 26/11/2023 at 15:56, webr55 said:

    Höver was from Detmold, but I couldn't find his first name.

     

     

    Chris,

     

    Johannes Hoever/Höver of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 135. Leutnant der Reserve on 22.10.14. His name is misspelt in the Militär-Wochenblatt in 1914 as Höwer.

     

    Regards

    Glenn

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    On 25/11/2023 at 17:51, webr55 said:

    We had Hptm Willi Halbach here already. The other Halbach was Lt dR Hermann Halbach from Lage, KIA shortly before the armistice:

     

    Hauptmann Willi Halbach was serving with RIR 88 at the time of his award. Leutnant Hermann Halbach was with RIR 67. His entry in the "Ehrenmal" lists him as a Leutnant der Landwehr, so presumably Leutnant d.L.Landw.Inf. (Detmold) of 27.1.17.

     

    Regards

    Glenn

     

    Regards

    Glenn

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    Here is a Militär-Dienstzeitbescheinigung for Bavarian HOH3X recipient Lt.d.L. Karl Bader, later a Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant. No dates, but since he's Bavarian maybe there's a Kriegsrangliste on Ancestry. Luftwaffe files being the mostly worthless messes they are, there's nothing on any World War II service or other decorations, though he would have had at least the WLDA4.

     

    BaderKarl.thumb.jpg.b33f16e54f1e4b0ac31c9607225de16f.jpg

     

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