House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Great find! I don't think we had him yet. 

 

 

[Mattyboy]

A first name, Karl Ulrich from FAR 51. Born 04 Feb 1886 in Wattenscheid, Gelsenkirchen. 

[Mattyboy]

First name: Lt dR Otto Hillemann, GGR 2. From Hannoverscher Kurier 21/09/1918. 

Another first name: Lt dR Hans Witte, 06/11/1918. Not sure if Adolf Preißler is a new addition or a princely one?

 

[Mattyboy]

First name: Lt dL Artur Schumacher. Publication dated 14/07/1917. 

 

[Dave Danner]

Preißler, Otto Adolf Hermann
*17.3.1892 in Ricklingen, Linden
†10.10.1959 in Garmisch-Partenkirchen

 

HOH3X on 27.9.1918 as a Lt.d.R. in Kürassier-Regiment Nr. 5, though he is listed there as "Preisler." According to the casualty list, he was Führer of the 2. M.G.-Eskadron of KR 5.

 

The 1929 Charlottenburg Eheregister gives his occupation as "akademischer Maler." His BAMA Personalakte lists his final rank as Oberstleutnant (Heer), but as he was not an active officer in the 1938/39 Stellenbesetzungen, I don't know if he was z.V. or d.R.

Edited March 17, 2023 by Dave Danner

[Mattyboy]

Hi Dave, thanks for the extra info. 

Here is a first name: Max Malcher 

https://sbc.org.pl/dlibra/publication/559785/edition/525813/content 

 

 

[Mattyboy]

Correction of a first name? - Bergedorfer Zeitung 24/11/1917 has the first name of Lt dR Becker of FR 86 as Max Becker. 

 

[webr55]

Lt dR Determann, unfortunately no first name.

HK, 19.4.19

 

 

Hptm dR Ernst Tiedge was Realschuldirektor.

 

HK, 1.10.1918

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by webr55

[Mattyboy]

First name of Hptm Sippel is Wilhelm. You can find him in the loss list: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/8392299 

 

[Glenn J]

3 hours ago, webr55 said:

Lt dR Determann, unfortunately no first name.

 

Probably Lt.d.R. (31.8.16) Hans Determann (I Hannover) of RIR 259.

 

Regards

Glenn

[Dave Danner]

14 hours ago, Glenn J said:

 

Probably Lt.d.R. (31.8.16) Hans Determann (I Hannover) of RIR 259.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

It seems likely. The Determann who received the HOH3X on 28.10.1918 was with GGR 2. Hans is listed as the Nachrichtenoffizier of the III. Bataillon of RIR 259 in the last Stellenbesetzung of 25.5.1918. When RIR 259 was dissolved in August 1918, its men were allocated among the regiments of the 2. Garde-Infanterie-Division. Although the III. Bataillon went mostly to GGR 1, the GGR 2 regimental history places Determann with 2./GGR 2 (Komp.Offizier and stellv. Komp.Führer) in September 1918.

 

Determann, Hans Heinrich Erich
*27.8.1892 in Hannover, †26.4.1969 in Bad Sachsa

 

His brother Karl died of typhus on 6.4.1917 as an Oberarzt d.R. in Landwehr-Feldlazarett Nr. 10

[Mattyboy]

First name: Hptm Hermann Mencke from PB 19 & PB 30. 

 

[Dave Danner]

Range, Johann Friedrich Heinrich
*1.10.1887 in Barth, Franzburg
†12.3.1945 in Stolp in Pommern

 

xx.12.1914 leicht verwundet bei Carlepont als Offz.-Stellv., 8./GR 89
27.1.1915 Lt.d.R. (Rostock) d. GR 89
31.12.1915 Komp.Offz., 8./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
01.7.1916 Komp.Fhr., 10./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
23.7.1916 Komp.Fhr., 12./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
xx.xx.1917 schwer verwundet (VL 975/29.10.17)
10.1.1918 nicht in der GR 89 Stellenbesetzung, vermutlich noch beurlaubt wegen Verwundung
10.7.1918 Komp.Fhr., 6./GR 89 (laut Stellenbesetzung)

 

4.6.1918 verheiratet mit Maria Anna Karoline, geb. Klissing, *7.5.1886 in Barth

 

19.7.1915 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Strelitzsches Kreuz für Auszeichnung im Kriege
25.1.1917 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 2. Kl. (Tag der Veröffentlichung im Regierungsblatt)
16.08.1917 Ghzgl. Meckl.-Schwerinsches Militärverdienstkreuz 1. Kl. (Tag der Veröffentlichung im Regierungsblatt)
8.11.1917 Kgl. Preußischer Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern

 

The 1919 Mecklenburg Census lists one son, born in 1919. There may have been other children later.

[Mattyboy]

The below website mentions a Lt dR Hans Becker. He was in PB 7 and can be found in the verlustlisten. Not sure when he was gazetted with the HOH3x, but his EK1 was noted in the Kölnische Zeitung dated 10 June 1916, along with a Heinrich Becker. 

 

https://www.rheinfranken.de/mitglieder/ 

[Mattyboy]

A new first name & a photo (pages 1 & 5): Lt dR Paul Wagner, later a DKiG recipient. Not to be confused with the later General Paul Wagner. The latter was an Oblt at the time of his award, and therefore does not appear in the MWB. 

 

https://www.carolinum.de/wp-content/uploads/017_mrz44.pdf 

 

By the way, I have the MWB 17/08/18 recipient as the later gauleiter, Lt Adolf Wagner of IR 135....

 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Mattyboy

[Mattyboy]

Award doc and photo of Hans Graf 

https://woeschler-orden.de/katalog/archiv/baden-nachlass-des-oberleutnants-hans-graf-mit-ritterkreuz-des-militaerischen-karl 

[Deutschritter]

21 hours ago, Mattyboy said:

Award doc and photo of Hans Graf 

https://woeschler-orden.de/katalog/archiv/baden-nachlass-des-oberleutnants-hans-graf-mit-ritterkreuz-des-militaerischen-karl 

Hans Graf received the Charakter als Hauptmann (after serving with the Freikorps/Grenzschutz Ost?), do you happen to know if he was reactivated for WWII? Thanks!  19.7.1913 Fähnrich,
23.12.1912 Leutnant (Patent), 20.5.1917 Oberleutnant

Edited April 4, 2023 by Deutschritter

[webr55]

A bit more info on Ferdinand Kummetz, from Hannov. Kurier, 25.12.1919:

 

[Mattyboy]

First name: Johann Wennesheimer. Wormser Zeitung 15th June 1918

 

Edited April 7, 2023 by Mattyboy

[Dave Danner]

I don't know if he's already been found, but the Hauptmann Lehmann in RIR 7 who received the HOH3X in January 1917 was Kurt, *1.4.1875 in Cottbus; Hauptmann, IR 154 (Pat. 1.10.12), 18.8.18 Major, 1918 in Gefangenschaft als Kdr. I./RIR 7.

 

RIR 7 was a Tochterformation of GR 7 and IR 154, which were both in the 18. Infanterie-Brigade.

 

Kurt Lehmann entered IR 14 as a Portepée-Fähnrich on 15.12.1894, so he also had the Centenary and likely received the Dienstauszeichnungskreuz after returning from captivity. No other known Landesorden for this Prussian officer in Prussian regiments.

 

Since it's a common name, not to be confused with Hptm. Kurt Lehmann from IR 59 or Hptm. Curt Lehmann from FAR 5.

 

 

[Dave Danner]

Lt.d.R. Hugo Andreas Hansen, born on 4.3.1892 in Flensburg, was killed in action on 30.10.1918 by Amerval with 12./RIR 64. He's the only Lt. Hansen I came across in the regimental history, so that would appear to make him the one who received the HOH3X on 9.10.1918.

[Dave Danner]

 

Regarding the other as yet unidentified Lts.d.R. Hansen, there were two in the GRSB (Edwin and Harald) and two in IR 163, so narrowing them down may not be possible.

 

I have no idea about IR 464. It was formed by contributions from many IX.AK units (IR 84, IR 85, FR 86, GR 89, IR 162, IR 163, RIR 31, RIR 86) so there may be too many possibilities.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Dave Danner

[webr55]

First name: Lt dR Wilhelm Witteborg from Sterkrade. 

 

Oberhausener Zeitung, 11.10.1918

 

 

[Dave Danner]

The OLt.d.R.a.D. Becker in FAR 21 who received the HOH3X on 6.7.1918, gazetted in the MWB on 3.9.1918, was Leopold.

 

He also received the ÖM3K. According to Schlachten des Weltkrieges, he led 2./FAR 21 at Isonzo where it was attached to an Austro-Hungarian formation.

 

I am not 100% certain, but I believe he is Dr.jur. Leopold Richard Becker, *8.8.1880 in Breslau, who was "schwer verwundet" in mid-1918 (Verlustliste v. 28.6.18) as an Oberleutnant. His promotion to Dr.jur. was on 31.7.1906 from the Universität Breslau and he was a Rechtsanwalt in Breslau and Neumarkt in Schlesien.

 

I am also not 100% certain, but I believe this makes him the Lt.d.R. in FAR 6 with a Patent of 19.2.10, separated in 1912/13 and promoted to OLt.d.R.a.D. on 5.12.15 while with the Artillerie-Munitions-Kolonnen of the VI. Armeekorps.

 

[webr55]

New first name: Peter Kuhler from Remscheid, IR 16 

 

Remscheider General-Anzeiger, 14.8.1918

 

 

 

Died 1929: 

 

Remscheider General-Anzeiger, 8.3.1929