I HATE Hindenburg crosses!

[CRBeery]

I know these are not really an Imperial era item but they pollute sooo many beautiful bars that we all love I felt this a good place to post. I don't know why but these have become a pet peeve of mine and I have passed on some really nice bars that were mounted in the mid 30's do to these.

Having said all of that I must admit that I do LOVE the pin back ones. The odd pieces find a little spot in my heart. How many firms produced these? I know there were two with different dies. Anyone have one different than these? I guess the fact that these were not made to ruin a medal bar makes it OK to me somehow. I never said I was not eccentric

Thanks,

Chet

[CRBeery]

The backs.

[joe campbell]

chet-

i'm with you.

i look for bars without them most times.

joe

[landsknechte]

I'd be interested to see if there are any pinbacks from the other two versions (combatants and non-combatants) of the crosses floating around out there.

--Chris

[Paul C]

I agree the Hindenburg Cross is not an attractive medal. Although it does serve a purpose for dating the bar and also for helping ID the owner. If the Hindenburg Cross is on the bar then the owner survived the war.

[Ralph A]

Here's mine:

[joe campbell]

nice pictures, ralph!

just checking, but this is the black cross for

witwen/eltern, correct?

scans can do funny things to colors....

thanks,

joe

[Guest Brian von Etzel]

They represent a last effort to show respect to their retired warriors. I like them a lot.

[Guest Darrell]

As many of these I have seen ... these are the FIRST pinbacks that have been exposed to these peepers .... good stuff

[Christian L]

nice ones!

but until now, the black one is the only one made in a pin back version - to my knowledge

christian

[Stogieman]

I think Ralph has one of these that was boxed??

[George Stimson]

"They represent a last effort to show respect to their retired warriors. I like them a lot."

Ditto.

[Marcus H]

Ralph's got a generic maker marked packet, the earlyish sort devoid of any desigantion like used on the Flowers War medals.

I love these little medals, they're often over looked because they're abundant....but I have a true soft spot for them. I've even two marked CEJ now.

Boxed Rick !! And I've more too Need the larger combo case for EK & HC

Edited September 7, 2005 by Marcus H

[Guest Brian von Etzel]

Nice Marcus.

[Chris Boonzaier]

In a way they do mess up bars.

If your intterest in WW1 then these drag them over into the nazi era, same way as if somone added a Bundesrepublic medal to a WW2 bar.

WW1 for me was 1914-1919 and ended there.... and so should fiddling with the bar.

Of course, realistically it is a valid medal and we Imperial collectors have to realise that the show went on after WW1 was over, unlike with the 3rd Reich stuff, there was no curtain to end the era.

[Daniel Murphy]

I agree, I do not like them on a medal bar. I realize they have their place, but I have passed on medal bars because of it. Say I want to display a medal bar on a pre war or wartime tunic. I think the HK just does not belong there, because by 1934 the veteran was wearing another uniform or had no reason to wear his old one. I have to say, I have few medal bars due to this. I would rather have Freikorps, or 1920's veteran medals than the HK, at least the vet could still be wearing the same uniform in the early 20's. However, If I was ever to find that one of a kind, collection making bar, (like the evil twins get) that I could afford I would still buy it if it had an HK on it.

[notned]

I agree with Paul.

Brian said it.

Nice pic Marcus!

They serve their purpose i guess, and there just seem to be alot of bars around with these on them, and i love these bars regardless! so the HK is part of it all!

Cheers

Paul