WTW Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 So they used the same collar tabs for gehobener and mittlerer Dienst?
Odulf Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Heeresbeamter auf Kriegsdauer, Left to right: Höheren Dienst - Gehobene Dienst - Mittleren Dienst 1
Odulf Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 So they used the same collar tabs for gehobener and mittlerer Dienst? The standard book "Die Deutsche Wehrmacht - Uniformierung und Ausrüstung" Band I - Das Heer, by Adolf Schicht & John R. Angolia, on page 343 says: Beamte des mittleren Dienstes im Offizierrang: They collar tabs identical to those of Beamter des gehobenen Dienstes. To distinguish these two, per Vfg.v. 10.4.1940 (HV 40B, Nr.269) new collar tabs were introduced: hand embroidered and identical but significantly more narrow. Beamte im Unteroffizierrang: collar tabs of woven fabric, and greyish white or grey.
Odulf Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I had this set, rescued from a moth infested jacket (Gehobene Dienst)
WTW Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I have found a page that provides detailed info on the collar patches: http://moebius.freehostia.com/beamten1.htm
Odulf Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Thank you WTH for this very useful link! This is by far the most useful and comprehensive outline I have ever seen, about this complex matter (to my opinion). Still I would advice, for a deeper insight, the source I have mentioned above, because it adds dates and other relevant background information, if the book is still available...
Laurence Strong Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 here you go, from the top...hoherer Dienst, gehobener Dienst, mittlerer Dienst, einfacher Dienst.
hucks216 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 A fairly recent addition to my collection is this soldbuch to Stabszahlmeister Alfred Lehmann... 1
hucks216 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 (edited) Personal details & Units. He served with Verpflegungsamt 4 up until at least 16th Oct 1942 (verified by a slip of paper in the SB for the issue of a pistol with that units FpNr) but obviously managed to leave that unit before it was destroyed at Stalingrad. Edited June 3, 2012 by hucks216
hucks216 Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Finally, his Lazarett pages and also his awards - KvK II & I Kl mit Schwertern & the Ost Medal. 1
Laurence Strong Posted June 3, 2012 Author Posted June 3, 2012 Sweet I would dearly love to find some SB's for sale later Larry
Laurence Strong Posted June 17, 2012 Author Posted June 17, 2012 With many thanks to Kevin (Hucks216) i was able to find a HV Soldbuch Its for a lagermeister - which I believe would be a storesman. He has Elecvated tabs and NCO boards. Sweeeet Once again many thanks Kevin I will post more when it gets here.
Paul R Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 NICE!!! Can you do a closeup scan of the photo? Beamte candidates wore this combination as well. After the probationary period, they were given an Officer grade.
Laurence Strong Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 Hi Paul At this time that is the best I can do with it. I took it from the advert that was on the website I bought it off of. It hits the mail today and is coming from Florida so it should not take too long to get here. I also believe he was an Officer aspirant. And yes they were allowed the elevated grade tabs prior to promotion. later Larry
Andrew42 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Hi! Zu dem Thema: Mittlerer Dienst (schmale Form) Waffenfarbe weiss
Andrew42 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Hi! Zu dem Thema: WH-Beamte, mittlerer Dienst (schmale Form) Waffenfarbe weiss
Andrew42 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Hi! Zu dem Thema: WH-Beamte, mittlerer Dienst (schmale Form) Waffenfarbe weiss
Andrew42 Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Danke! Heeresbeamte a.K. gehobener Dienst, "matte Version" Edited June 24, 2012 by Andrew42
Laurence Strong Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Sweet ones Andrew. Thanks for podting them Larry
Laurence Strong Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Finally scored a Soldbuch, Kevin (Hucks216) has been kind enough to send me some links on these, the first one I sent my money and I am still waiting - 6 months later - I sent an email to the owner asking to confirm my shipping address but never recieved a reply.....it was a sweet one to an Unteroffizier. Can't remeber what happen with the others however they did not pan out. This one is to a Zahlmeister Karl Jack Entitled to the 1914 EK2 BWB 1918, and the WW1 Vetrans Cross SA Sports badge and the KvK2 mit Schwerten Served with front-Stalag 190 a feild POW camp in France, in June 1942 the was renamed Dulag 190, He then moved on to a transitional POW camp of the 6th Army in southern Russia, before moving to Dulag 111, also in Southern Russia In 1942 he served in a POW camp in Alsace. 1943 -45 he served with Kgf.Bau-und-Arbeits-Btl.1 a POW labour unit in northern Norway 1
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