demir Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) Gentlemen,In order to help to understand the old Ottoman Turkish Script on the Turkish medal ribbon bars I am posting 4 different pictures of the ribbon bars.Best wishesDemirPicture 1: Ottoman Medals and Orders Documented History by Metin Erureten first row: 1. Gallipoli 2. Liyakat medal 1332 3. Suez Channel (Sinai) second row: 1. Iraq 2. Caucausus 3. The Siege of Kut (was a major battle of World War I, now Iraq) Edited March 1, 2009 by demir
demir Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 picture 2: Book: Iftihar ve Imtiyaz, History of Ottoman Order and Medals by Mr. Edhem Eldem from left 3rd ribbon bar : Palestine (Collection: Isa Akbas)
demir Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 picture 3: Book: Iftihar ve Imtiyaz, History of Ottoman Order and Medals by Mr. Edhem Eldem 1st bar: Caucasus, 2nd bar: Sakarya (Turkish Independence war) 3,4,5 bars : Romania (Collection: Isa Akbas)
demir Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 picture 4book: Ottoman Medals and Orders Documented History by Metin Erureten1. Canakkale (Gallipoli), 2. Caucasusbest wishes Demir
Guest Rick Research Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Some German examples:Marine Oberstabsarzt (E) Dr.med. Georg Willrich (1883-1937/39)--This has everything imaginable, from the Turkish Lifesaving Medal in last place up through War Medal star, Liakat Medal, Medjidie Order, and Imtiaz Medal. Bar on the TWM is "Karah Deniz"/ Black SeaGeneralmajor zV Hugo Kiehl (1884-1944) with "Sinai" on his Liakat and TWM:He took part in Friedrich Freiherr Kress von Kressenstein's raid across the Suez Canal. Chief of the uniformed police (SchuPo) in Munich when the Nazis took over, General Kiehl died as Commandant of Prisoners Of War in... Norway!Closeup:Now a botched German bungle, which managed to get almost everything WRONG!The 1914 Iron Cross is fine. But the Hindenburg Cross has mysteriously--and wrongly-- added the wreath fro the ?M3K in 3rd place to its swords, leaving the 3rd ribbon bare. The Imtiaz Medal in 4th place uses a L?beck Hanseatic CRoss ribbon red/white instead of red/green... and there at the end is the War Medal star with "Palestine" bar.Close up
Ed_Haynes Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Very nice! Thanks, Demir (and Rick). More information on the Edhem Eldem book, please?
demir Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Ed_Haynes @ Mar 2 2009, 00:12 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very nice! Thanks, Demir (and Rick). More information on the Edhem Eldem book, please? Hello Ed, The book was published on the occasion of the exhibition named Iftihar and Imtiyaz (Valor and Privilege) Ottoman Order and Medals organized by Turkish ministry of Culture and Garanti Bank between 28.9.2004-26.12.2005. The name of the book is Iftihar ve Imtiyaz, Osmanlı nisan ve Madalyalar Tarihi by EDHEM ELDEM sold during the exhibition. price app. USD 80.00. 528 fine paper pages with a lot of pictures of the military personel wearing order and medals + all ottoman medals,orders,bars etc. Best wishes Demir Edited September 11, 2013 by demir
922F Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 The EDHEM book is sometimes available from Spink's and on eBay from time to time--price is about $100 U.S.
Ed_Haynes Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Found one on Amazon, but $300+. Haven't checked ABE, but shall.
Antonio Prieto Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Please see:http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/cintas...opa/otomano.htmThese ribbons bars belonged to the late Gral Rafael de Nogales M?ndez, a venezuelan's born officer who was an acting general with Ottoman Army and Imperial German Military Advisers during the Balkan Wars (forwarded by Jesse Ruiz Moreno)
demir Posted March 2, 2009 Author Posted March 2, 2009 Found one on Amazon, but $300+. Haven't checked ABE, but shall.Hello, When you find the book for USD 100 in ebay buy it. It is a heavy book around 3 kg. So the S/H will be high. It is hard to find now.Don't forget it is only Turkish.If anybody is interested I can try to find in Ankara and inform the price.Best wishesdemir
Rich Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 So did the Turks actually produce a war medal to go with the campaign bar ribbons?
Ed_Haynes Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Yes. The familiar 1915 Harp Madalyasi / War Medal 1915. German and British collectors have invented their own names for it.See: http://www.turkishmedals.net/decorations.htm#1915 War Medal
demir Posted October 24, 2012 Author Posted October 24, 2012 Some more Ottoman battle/campaign bars Galicia (left) and Gallipoli Demir
demir Posted September 11, 2013 Author Posted September 11, 2013 Some more campaign clasps from Liu Jian. KAFKASYA (CAUCASUS)- ÇANAKKALE - KANAL (KANAL)(Suez)
infantry Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Don't forget it is only Turkish.FYI. There is also an English version available. See the attached image.Cheers
demir Posted September 13, 2013 Author Posted September 13, 2013 Yes I also found out that there is a hard to find English version. Thanks.
Auseklis Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I purchased my turkish copy about 2 years ago for about 60 Euro. It was quite easy I just had it ordered for me by a turkish book store.
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