Elizabeth Cross

[bigjarofwasps]

Hi Guys,

Thought this might be of interest...............

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceF...nitionAward.htm

[Richard Gordon]

Is this a pin-back award?

Rich

[Paul R]

It looks like it is... I really think that they did a great job on this award, although it's application seems to be limited to military deaths due to terrorism. I really like the look!

[JPL]

It looks like it is... I really think that they did a great job on this award, although it's application seems to be limited to military deaths due to terrorism. I really like the look!

Yes, looks really nice. Obviously based on the Canadian Memorial Cross as can be seen here:

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/c...-eng.asp?ref=MC

Jean-Paul

[The Monkey God]

Hopefully they take it one stage further and have something for all the guys that are being wounded!

[Paul R]

Hopefully they take it one stage further and have something for all the guys that are being wounded!

I agree with that. Does the British Army still award wound stripes, at least?

[JPL]

Hopefully they take it one stage further and have something for all the guys that are being wounded!

Since they copied the Canadian Memorial Cross, they could also copy the Canadian Sacrifice Medal, which is still on hold due to an ongoing review of who should qualify for this new medal.

Here is the link:

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/c...-eng.asp?ref=SM

Jean-Paul

[bigjarofwasps]

Since they copied the Canadian Memorial Cross, they could also copy the Canadian Sacrifice Medal, which is still on hold due to an ongoing review of who should qualify for this new medal.

Here is the link:

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhr-ddhr/c...-eng.asp?ref=SM

Jean-Paul

Its a hot topic of debate, the awards that the Queen as okey for commonwealth troops, but not for her own (as it were)...

[Megan]

It has just been announced that Her Majesty The Queen has authorised the wearing of the Elizabeth Cross in uniform. It may be pinned on the wearer's right side above the breast pocket.

(Source: October 2010 issue of Soldier magazine)

Edited October 2, 2010 by Megan

[paddywhack]

It has just been announced that Her Majesty The Queen has authorised the wearing of the Elizabeth Cross in uniform. It may be pinned on the wearer's right side above the breast pocket.

(Source: October 2010 issue of Soldier magazine)

so is it to be awarded for death?if so how is then is it to be worn???by next of kin?

[Megan]

The Elizabeth Cross is bestowed upon the next-of-kin of service personnel killed on active service. Unlike the various 'Memorial Crosses' bestowed by Canada, NZ, etc., it is not automatically given to the mother and/or wife of the individual killed, each service member can nominate which family members they wish. Hence a recipient may be themselves serving, and so have a uniform on which to pin the Elizabeth Cross.

[Chris Boonzaier]

A fantastic looking medal... It looks like the british are slowly turning back to taste and quality.

[bigjarofwasps]

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66900561.amp
 

Appreciate that this article is a few months old now. But formal confirmation that the Elizabeth Cross is to be extended to fallen Police Officers, is expected to be announced very shortly. 

[Marcon1]

[ChrisKelly]

To answer the question about wound stripes, I found this:

 

Source:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wound_stripe

 

"The badge was reintroduced in 1944 for the Second World War (1939–1945) and was discontinued after 1946. A yellow cloth version was introduced for use with Battle Dress. Previous awards during World War One were designated by a single red cloth stripe. British soldiers have not been awarded Wound Stripes for any conflict after World War Two.

 

Soldiers of the Australian Imperial Force, Canadian Expeditionary Force, New Zealand Expeditionary Force, and other Empire troops followed suit in the First World War, and issued wound stripes according to British practice. It was reintroduced for the Second World War but not the Korean War.

 

A version for the Canadian Forces uniform was developed and worn by soldiers injured on operational deployments beginning in the 1990s, including Afghanistan. The Sacrifice Medal replaced the wound stripe for all members of the Canadian Armed Forces in 2008. The award has also been opened to soldiers of an allied force or civilians working for Canadian Forces personnel. The wound stripe is for physical or mental injuries received in operations prior to 07 Oct 2001 are worn. Recipients of the Sacrifice Medal shall not wear the Wound Stripe unless they have qualified for the badge as a result of wounds received before 07 Oct 2001."

 

It's been customary to waive any tine requirements for campaign medals should the wounds sustained result in being invalided out, and award the medal.  Other than these obsolete wound stripes, I am not aware of any other recognition (except the Canadian Sacrifice Medal) for treatable wounds with a subsequent return to duty.

[ChrisKelly]

Some additional information on Canada's Sacrifice Medal:

 

Source:

 

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/medals/medals-chart-index/sacrifice-medal-sm.html

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrifice_Medal

 

Note:

The third image is one picture, showing a Sacrifice Medal in its presentation box, and below it, a mounted group to the Sacrifice Medal recipient.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:45 by ChrisKelly

[ChrisKelly]

Apparently the Elizabeth Cross is a pinback award, but I can't find an image of the pin construction.  That purple ribbon in the case looks like it's part of the case, not somehow attached to the award.

 

Sources:

 

https://www.forcesnews.com/heritage/history/elizabeth-cross-award-instituted-her-majesty-queen-explained

 

https://www.surreylieutenancy.org/the-elizabeth-cross-and-memorial-scroll/

 

http://www.onlinemedals.co.uk/medal-encyclopaedia/post-ww2-medals/elizabeth-cross

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cross

 

https://www.dcmmedals.co.uk/a-memorial-to-services-rendered-the-queen-elizabeth-cross-and-its-predecessors/

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:07 by ChrisKelly

[bigjarofwasps]

17 hours ago, ChrisKelly said:

Apparently the Elizabeth Cross is a pinback award, but I can't find an image of the pin construction.  That purple ribbon in the case looks like it's part of the case, not somehow attached to the award.

 

Sources:

 

https://www.forcesnews.com/heritage/history/elizabeth-cross-award-instituted-her-majesty-queen-explained

 

https://www.surreylieutenancy.org/the-elizabeth-cross-and-memorial-scroll/

 

http://www.onlinemedals.co.uk/medal-encyclopaedia/post-ww2-medals/elizabeth-cross

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cross

 

https://www.dcmmedals.co.uk/a-memorial-to-services-rendered-the-queen-elizabeth-cross-and-its-predecessors/

 

Found this, hope it helps? 
 

The ribbon is just to make it easier to remove it from the box, I believe. 

[ChrisKelly]

This was all I could come up with:

 

Source:

 

http://www.onlinemedals.co.uk/medal-encyclopaedia/post-ww2-medals/elizabeth-cross

 

Edited Thursday at 02:12 by ChrisKelly

[bigjarofwasps]

7 hours ago, ChrisKelly said:

This was all I could come up with:

 

Source:

 

http://www.onlinemedals.co.uk/medal-encyclopaedia/post-ww2-medals/elizabeth-cross

 

I believe that’s the miniature, although how it’s attached I couldn’t say. 
 

Found another example of the full sized one. 
 

(*Note the miniature in this photo is different from the one above?) 

[Gordon Craig]

Gentlemen,

The following is from the British Parliament web page.

Those receiving this honour receive two pinned sterling silver emblems, one full size for formal remembrance events and a miniature version for less formal events. The reverse of the cross will be engraved with the name of the person in whose memory it is granted. The emblems will be accompanied by a memorial scroll.

A cased cross was sold just over a month ago for 1000 pounds.

Regards,

Gordon