Beau Newman Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 I recently got this group. All the pieces look good. The mounting shows no sign of being played with and shows good age. It just seems to be a rather unusual combination, especially in the absence of other awards. Unfortunately, Reuss records are nearly nonexistent. I know the Reuss 3rd Class w/crown and swords was considered a Captain grade award while the Wurtt. Gold Medal was awarded to junior officers and very senior NCOs. Any thoughts?
VtwinVince Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 I saw this one as well, but was scared off by the weird combo and the mounting style.
dond Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Is the Wuertemburg medal actually gold or silver gilt? Edited November 15, 2009 by dond
Beau Newman Posted November 15, 2009 Author Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Is the Wuertemburg medal actually gold or silver gilt? Definitely silver gilt. Edited November 15, 2009 by Beau Newman
Deruelle Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Hi, I saw this one too and was very interrested to bid on it. but the combo is strange. Like you said, the RE3X m. Kr was for Captain. If it is a RE3X only the combo would be nicer than this one. Just my two cents Christophe
Claudius Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 The WGMMM is high, uncommon and distinguished bravery award and I believe would be mounted in front of other (Wurttemberg) awards. So, this is a proud Reuss guy? And, at the very least he would also have had the EKI.
Claudio Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) There are many things I don't like of these medal bar... the way the ribbons are folded, the odd combination without any other orders or medals, the fact that the Württemberg is a cheap silver gilt piece... but above all I don't like the Reussisches Ehrenkreuz' crown; it looks a bit too small and if you notice, although the picture is very bad and small, there's some traces of welding on the bottom outer part of the crown... It looks just like a piece I won on a German auction; when I got it delivered and I saw the flaw, I immediately sent it back. I am wondering: maybe "they" used the very same cross to put together this bar! Ciao, Claudio Edited November 17, 2009 by Claudio
Beau Newman Posted November 17, 2009 Author Posted November 17, 2009 The size of the crown doesn't really concern me. It is identical to the examples in Nimmergut. There is a bit of roughness at the sides of the crown where the hinged attachment points were finished off but, no worse than on most other pieces I have seen with articulated crowns. The overall workmanship and construction of the piece is nearly identical to the other Reuss crosses I have seen. My primary question with this group is the odd combination. I believe the pendants are OK but, I'm not convinced that the mounting is original.
dond Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 I see too many of these silver gilt WGMMMs to be comfortable with this.
saschaw Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 I see too many of these silver gilt WGMMMs to be comfortable with this. Especially regarding none was ever awarded... Were WgMs give to non-Württemberg junior officers at all?
Daniel Krause Posted November 18, 2009 Posted November 18, 2009 ohh, they were awarded to Non-Württemberg- Guys as well. 51 Prussians, 5 Bavarians and 7 Saxons - as far as I have them. Best regards Daniel
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