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    Posted

    Gentlemen,

    I was bidding on this ribbon bar last night. Needless to say, I did not win the auction! :Cat-Scratch: Did anyone here get this one?

    I am curious as to what the bow on the second ribbon represents?

    Best wishes

    Matt

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    Posted

    Hi,

    thats a Prussian Red Eagle Order 3rd class with bow (indicates that the guy held before the 4th class)

    But I have some doubts about this bar.

    I would like to hold it in my hands for a proper inspection.

    Greetings

    Daniel

    Posted

    Thank you Daniel for explaining the bow. :cheers:

    Paul unfortunately these are the only photos, taken from eBay. :banger:

    Gentlemen, what is doubtful about the ribbon bar? Is it the combination (there does seem to be a lot of blue ribbons)? The lack of devices perhaps?

    As I stated before I had a bid on this bar....maybe it is a good thing I lost this auction chaps? :whistle:

    Best wishes

    Matt

    Posted

    I don't have any doubts at all, I plain do not like it.

    Primary concern is the bow device itself; which is so <expletive deleted> rare on a bar of this style (post 1915); that the presence therof is enough to make me have serious doubts as to authenticity.

    Posted

    It looks like the militaria gods were looking out for you on this one. I trust Rick's expertise without question.

    Posted

    I discussed this bar with Rick Research and we could not find the träger, which for me is always a red flag on a bar where the holder should be found.

    Posted

    Thank you Gentlemen for sharing your opinions and expertise. :beer: I have learnt something from this discussion and I hope others reading it have also.

    I am glad I was lucky enough to dodged the bullet on this one. :blush:

    Best wishes and thanks,

    Matt

    Posted

    Once prices soared through the roof on ribbon bars the fakers become far more sophisticated. Over the last 20 years or so what I have learned is that if there's a bell going offing my head, I should listen to it! (sometimes it's a good bell btw)

    With this bar and no ID, and questionable bow, I would run away. Other's would not and that's Ok because I am in no way an expert on anything. The real expert is Rick Research, Daniel Krause and the pool of knowledge associated with all the fellows doing research. If they don't make a sign of the cross over it I would not personally touch it with a ten foot pole.

    But I am old, tired and had enough bad decisions over the years to know when it's time for me to take a pass.

    I put the old 5X glasses on and looked closer at the device attaching the bow. It's something i am still not comfortable with, nor do i like the backing. But the pix are crap and as my Neurosurgeon says "they are not of diagnostic quality".

    Cheers! & Happy Christmas, Rick

    Posted

    I am also a liitle bit worried about theese bow ribbon bars , I´ve seen no less then two :speechless1: for sale in Sweden this year looking very similar to this ebay one .

    Maybe someone has started manufacturing this type of ribbon bars recently ?

    I hope Santa bring you nice presents this christmas, a smile, a hug and good health being the best

    we can wish for , but if he absolutely want to give me a EK I 1870 i don´t mind :whistle:

    Merry Christmas all

    Christer

    Posted

    Another one that just ended. I liked it as well and placed a bid, but someone else palced a higher one. I think I haven't yet seen a dozend of these overall.

    But I will get one, some day. :whistle:

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    • 3 months later...
    Posted

    I would like to hold it in my hands for a proper inspection.

    How about Altenburg? (bitte ggf. kurz vorher nochmal erinnern!)

    The thread starter found it's way to me last weekend, and: I (still) like everything about it. I'm pretty confident he (the wearer) has just not been found due to incomplete lists...

    :whistle:

    Posted

    How about Altenburg? (bitte ggf. kurz vorher nochmal erinnern!)

    The thread starter found it's way to me last weekend, and: I (still) like everything about it. I'm pretty confident he (the wearer) has just not been found due to incomplete lists...

    :whistle:

    Saschaw,

    Good on you for sticking to your guns on this one. :cheers: I guess things sometimes are not always as they seem. ;) Best of luck with the ID.

    Best wishes

    Matt

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