M Hunter Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Gentlemen, I was bidding on this ribbon bar last night. Needless to say, I did not win the auction! Did anyone here get this one? I am curious as to what the bow on the second ribbon represents? Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hi, thats a Prussian Red Eagle Order 3rd class with bow (indicates that the guy held before the 4th class) But I have some doubts about this bar. I would like to hold it in my hands for a proper inspection. Greetings Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Can larger and clearer scans be made of this bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Thank you Daniel for explaining the bow. Paul unfortunately these are the only photos, taken from eBay. Gentlemen, what is doubtful about the ribbon bar? Is it the combination (there does seem to be a lot of blue ribbons)? The lack of devices perhaps? As I stated before I had a bid on this bar....maybe it is a good thing I lost this auction chaps? Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I don't have any doubts at all, I plain do not like it. Primary concern is the bow device itself; which is so <expletive deleted> rare on a bar of this style (post 1915); that the presence therof is enough to make me have serious doubts as to authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 It looks like the militaria gods were looking out for you on this one. I trust Rick's expertise without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I discussed this bar with Rick Research and we could not find the träger, which for me is always a red flag on a bar where the holder should be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thank you Gentlemen for sharing your opinions and expertise. I have learnt something from this discussion and I hope others reading it have also. I am glad I was lucky enough to dodged the bullet on this one. Best wishes and thanks, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I like it, but missed auction's end. I think that was a nice bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Once prices soared through the roof on ribbon bars the fakers become far more sophisticated. Over the last 20 years or so what I have learned is that if there's a bell going offing my head, I should listen to it! (sometimes it's a good bell btw) With this bar and no ID, and questionable bow, I would run away. Other's would not and that's Ok because I am in no way an expert on anything. The real expert is Rick Research, Daniel Krause and the pool of knowledge associated with all the fellows doing research. If they don't make a sign of the cross over it I would not personally touch it with a ten foot pole. But I am old, tired and had enough bad decisions over the years to know when it's time for me to take a pass. I put the old 5X glasses on and looked closer at the device attaching the bow. It's something i am still not comfortable with, nor do i like the backing. But the pix are crap and as my Neurosurgeon says "they are not of diagnostic quality". Cheers! & Happy Christmas, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I am also a liitle bit worried about theese bow ribbon bars , I´ve seen no less then two for sale in Sweden this year looking very similar to this ebay one . Maybe someone has started manufacturing this type of ribbon bars recently ? I hope Santa bring you nice presents this christmas, a smile, a hug and good health being the best we can wish for , but if he absolutely want to give me a EK I 1870 i don´t mind Merry Christmas all Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Another one that just ended. I liked it as well and placed a bid, but someone else palced a higher one. I think I haven't yet seen a dozend of these overall. But I will get one, some day. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I would like to hold it in my hands for a proper inspection. How about Altenburg? (bitte ggf. kurz vorher nochmal erinnern!) The thread starter found it's way to me last weekend, and: I (still) like everything about it. I'm pretty confident he (the wearer) has just not been found due to incomplete lists... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Wow ! Nice too see you got it in the end Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 How about Altenburg? (bitte ggf. kurz vorher nochmal erinnern!) The thread starter found it's way to me last weekend, and: I (still) like everything about it. I'm pretty confident he (the wearer) has just not been found due to incomplete lists... Saschaw, Good on you for sticking to your guns on this one. I guess things sometimes are not always as they seem. Best of luck with the ID. Best wishes Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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