Signalcorps45 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hello to everyone, I am not sure if this pin-back was officially issued. Any thoughts would be helpful. Thank you in advance Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryansk1959 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hello Dean. I do not like this cross.Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalcorps45 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 bryansk1959, Can you please help me understand what is wrong with it. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryansk1959 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just compare.(Note the reverse).This cross 100% original. In the evening, after work, I look for a link to a great site on the cross.Regards.Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalcorps45 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 50 minutes ago, bryansk1959 said: Just compare.(Note the reverse).This cross 100% original. In the evening, after work, I look for a link to a great site on the cross.Regards.Alexander. This cross 100% original. In the evening, after work, I look for a link to a great site on the cross.Regards.Alexander. Alexander, I would like to see any websites you can direct me to Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hi Dean, here´s a link to the best Lippe - Detmold website I know http://www.hausorden.de/ and here to the Kriegsehrenkreuz für heldenmütige Tat http://www.hausorden.de/militaer-auszeichn-kriegsehrenkreuz.html Kind regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryansk1959 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Thank you Andreas, this is the site I wanted to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalcorps45 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 bryansk1959 and Andreas, After looking closer at the pictures both of you provided, I can now see that the cross I bought has some serious flaws. I can now put it in the fake drawer. Thank you Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryansk1959 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Always happy to help.Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I´ve seen this topic too late. Singnalcorps45´s shown cross is unfortunately a known fake, from time to time sold on Ebay. Only C.F. Zimmermann produced the awarded crosses, therefore all crosses are looking the same. Attached you will find pics of my both crosses. Both are 100 % original, one is coming directly from private. Regards Roman P.S. Thanks for liking my webpage :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signalcorps45 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Roman, Thank you for the information. I took a chance on this. I clearly see now that the Cross I purchased was is fake. I am now better informed. The Cross I bought will be destroyed, so it will never be on the market again. Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) By the way, I have a picture of a 3rd original one, which I sold some time ago (because on the above shown ones I have the names who got it and the sold one was nameless). Edited October 14, 2016 by Solomon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 09/10/2016 at 11:44, dedehansen said: Hi Dean, here´s a link to the best Lippe - Detmold website I know http://www.hausorden.de/ and here to the Kriegsehrenkreuz für heldenmütige Tat http://www.hausorden.de/militaer-auszeichn-kriegsehrenkreuz.html Kind regards Andreas Andreas thank you for this fantastic and very informative site. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks for the compliment, Paul. It's my site :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Solomon, well done you have shown how a web-site should be Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 This looks to me of the same manufacturer and period. Looks to have a repair the the ping on the hing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I´ve just seen this cross at Bretzendorfer on yesterday, too. Looks like a good one (officially awarded during 1914-1918) from Zimmermann and as you said with a repaired needle-system. The price is acceptable. Regards Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 1/23/2017 at 02:06, Solomon said: I´ve just seen this cross at Bretzendorfer on yesterday, too. Looks like a good one (officially awarded during 1914-1918) from Zimmermann and as you said with a repaired needle-system. The price is acceptable. Regards Roman Thank you Roman, i have always wanted one of these but they're not too commonly found. im trying to get this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Hi, Nice cross Charles, I hope you can have it. Here I show you some of my Lippe Detmold medals. I have already shown them. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 19 hours ago, ccj said: Thank you Roman, i have always wanted one of these but they're not too commonly found. im trying to get this one. Good luck....from time to time a nice one (original awarded and not the usual ebay-crap) is offered. But the difficult part regarding this unique crosses is to find an original award document :-) I only have two...plus this blank one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 8 hours ago, Deruelle said: Hi, Nice cross Charles, I hope you can have it. Here I show you some of my Lippe Detmold medals. I have already shown them. Christophe Nice Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Although some may get a heart-attack (like I almost got, when I saw this one), I will show you a really rare bird, just landed on my desk: It´s a war-merit cross for heroic deeds....but something seems to be wrong A closer look shows the entire desaster....Zimmermann printed a 800 on the needle !!!!! To become serious, this cross is a ultra-rare bird. Between 1916-1918 Zimmermann produced a few crosses in Silver gilden (with 800), mostly awarded by high ranked officers, Princes or politicians (like Ludendorff or Bismarck). These crosses are 2 gramm heavier than the usual ones. Although I don´t know the exact number, I guess there were not more than 40 crosses in Silver gilden. And to complete the desaster...this special cross comes in a ultra-rare box with printing on it. Beside this box, I only know so far one other box . Greets Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 That's absolutely amazing. You lucky man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Wow... very nice, and congratulations on the new piece for your collection. chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 now that is something quite special. thank you for sharing, roman. can't get much better than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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