Graf Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Hi 922F, Yes i noticed that the Star body is like the old style Austrian Stars. We can speculate that this could be specially commissioned Set to this person due to his rank and position in the society. The other question is is the Set 1st Class or 2nd Class with a "special' Star It is difficult to measure the cross on the photo The order on the medal bar is more likely an Officer Class The Knight Class of this Model is a bit slimmer ..and also rarely awarded Hi Dave Danner, I tried to Google search this Person No susses Can you list any link Best Edited December 14, 2021 by Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Viktor Károly István Antal Reitzner, heidelbergi Birth: July 30 1844 - Bártfa Death: July 3 1916 - Meran, Südtirol Parents: János heidelbergi Reitzner and Károlina Gunia Brother: Félix Partner: Leona Mária Anna Bosnyák Children: Hilda and Viktor That is the information i was able to find so far i will keep looking Edited December 14, 2021 by Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Here is his entry in the 1906 Schematismus of the Austro-Hungarian Army. Foreign awards are not listed, but the Austro-Hungarian ones match the photo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) The following list of his awards from the 1914 Ruhestands Schematismus (page 76). Reitzner v. Heidelberg Viktor (g. 44 Kj. 66 p. 98) FJO-R. MVK. 8 D3. it. MLO-R. bulg. AO-R. 4. bulg. MVO R. 2. u. 4. ott. 00. 2. ott. MO. 3. Edited December 14, 2021 by Ian Additional Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Thanks Dave, couldn't see the forest for the trees!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Thanks Dave and Ian, That is something I noticed in Ian post of the list of the awards twice abbreviations - bulg, and ott and ones -it Those could be related for his foreign awards on the photo, although not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Yes, thanks Dave and Ian, Ian's cite appears to describe Reitzner's foreign awards as of 1914 being: it. MLO. R. [Italian Maurice & Lazarus Order, knight], bulg A0-R. 4. [Bulgarian St. Alexander Order, knight 4 -- officer], bulg. MVO-R. 2. u. 4. [Bulgarian Military Merit Order, knight 2 and 4 th -- grand officer and officer], ott. OO. 2. [Ottoman Osmanie Order 2nd class], and ott. MO. 3. [Ottoman Medjidjie Order 3rd class]. Bulgarian Civil Merit Order abbreviation appearing in such sources is bulg. ZLO-R. and class number. Based on image, seems to be disparity or maybe reflects transcription error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I assume the clerk or editor saw the Bulgarian entries and mistakenly assumed that as a former military officer he must have had the MVO. But for the photo, we would not have known about the error in the reference material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Yes, Thanks all involved in the research. I also agree that it could be clerical mistake I came across (and I have few) decorations with mistaken text by the makers Reason, in my opinion is that the text is in foreign for the makers language One is for sure we now know that the he was awarded a Grand Officer Class (2nd Class) of the Order for Civil merit and only the Star is different from the Standard design. I came across few (and I have some) decorations with not a standard design What was the reason it is pure guess As far as i managed to track his career he reached rank of Oberst (Colonel) and Grand officer will be more appropriate to be awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 photos from Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Graf Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Dear Members of the Bulgarian Forum Happy New Year 2022 Here is a nice photo I saw on internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Thank you Graf for your greetings and eclectic treasure display!! Best wishes for 2022! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hi 922F Thank you for the nice comments ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Igor Ostapenko Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Happy New Year dear colleagues ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 02/01/2022 at 20:13, Graf said: His name is Generalleutnant Ernst Krüger. Hi Igor, Happy New Year 2022 ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Who is this VIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new world Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) On 15/02/2022 at 03:04, Graf said: Who is this VIP he has some Russian, French, Serbian and Montenegrian awards. Perhaps a diplomat? Edited February 16, 2022 by new world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Looks like a 2nd type [young head] Ferdinand Arts & Sciences medal uppermost on his lapel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Richsmarschall Georing with Grand Cross Star of the Order of St Alexander with Diamonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Another great image! Thank you Graf! According to Neubeker, Die Orden Hermann Göring, Graf Klenau, 1981, he received from Bulgaria a Cyril & Methodius [& small collar], St. Alexander [civil Grand Cross with brilliants] St. Alexander civil collar & Grand Cross and a Military Bravery Order First Class. N.B. No military division St. Alexander! The book includes images including, supposedly, most of Göring's' personal decorations. Göring's personalized honors storage cabinet [gifted to him in 1943 by Potsdam municipality] contained drawers for all awards. The front of each drawer included a porcelain plate bearing an image of the award stored inside. Plenty of drawers reserved for future honors bore porcelain plates with laurel leaves. Photos of the cabinet clearly show the Bulgarian decorations' plates. Of course, awards that Göring received from occupied/enemy countries were not included in drawers with illustrated porcelain plates. Reportedly, such decorations were not discarded but discretely retained and held in drawers with slightly differently designed laurel leaves! These included Order of the White Eagle, Grand Cross, Yugoslavia; Order of BESA, Grand Cross, Albania [disputed; Dr Klietmann reported that Göring received the Collar of Albania]; Order of the White Eagle, Poland; Order of the White Lion; Czechoslovakia; Order of Saint Tamara, restored in 1922 by the Georgian Parity Committee, Paris [disputed although images of him wearing it exist], and others. Edited February 20, 2022 by 922F spelchek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Hi 922F, Thank you for the information Very interesting, especially the fact that he got the Civil Division of the Order of St Alexander I suspect he received few luxury models decorations. he was well known of his extravaganza and love for luxury items. I am still chasing the name of the VIP from the previous post On this photo that I posted not long ago he is wearing the St Alexander Star. The photo was taken during a visit to Bulgaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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