Alex K Posted July 22, 2018 Posted July 22, 2018 Hi, assistance please if possible, this image from Wiki, shows von Kern, does anyone recognise the decoration indicated, It is familiar and feel I should know it but the brains not working, and I cant find it in my references. Any help appreciated regards Alex K
laurentius Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Dear Alex K As ixhs said it looked like a dutch medal so I went on a small internetsearch and I think that I've found the medal. It's the officerscross of the Dutch house-order of Oranje-Nassau, I'll add a picture for you. Kind regards, Laurentius
Herman Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Laurentius is correct. It's the first type that existed till 1910ish. Regards Herman
Alex K Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 Hi all, thanks for the information, I must admit I hadn't thought of the Netherlands but German. regards Alex
David M Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 22 hours ago, laurentius said: Dear Alex K As ixhs said it looked like a dutch medal so I went on a small internetsearch and I think that I've found the medal. It's the officerscross of the Dutch house-order of Oranje-Nassau, I'll add a picture for you. Kind regards, Laurentius So this site is wrong? https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_van_Oranje-Nassau#De_versierselen it says the decorations did not vary since the foundation of the order To me it looks more like this https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huisorde_van_Oranje#De_Huisorde_bij_zijn_instelling_in_1905_en_de_later_ingestelde_graden
laurentius Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Dear David M No, it is not wrong, it's a completly different medal, although the confussion can be understood since their names are so similar. The general in the picture is wearing the 1.st type Officerscross of the House-order of Oranje-Nassau. The order you refer to is the order of Oranje-Nassau. The difference in these orders is the institution that gives them away. The house-order is given out by the royal family, whilst the order is given out by the state, and although this order has a crown the royal family does not have a say in who is awarded. The order of Oranje-Nassau has not changed, whilst the House-order has. Kind regards, Laurentius
Alex K Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Hi all, He's actually wearing this, found it on a auction hause site regards Alex since the medal bar has been mentioned, attached, to me they look like Mecklenburg decorations, or am I wrong.
dedehansen Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Hi Alex, the cross is from Anhalt, Friedrich-Kreuz am Bande für Kämpfer OEK 81 Regards Andreas
laurentius Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Dear alex The medal after the BMVO4x is a Hessian medal for bravery, OEK 884 Kind regards, Laurentius
Alex K Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 Hi Thanks for that, with regards to the medal after the BMVO4X, I was basing on the look of the ribbon, difficult to see but it appears to have multiple stripes similar to the Meck, mvk, but I bow to superior knowledge regards
David M Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, laurentius said: Dear David M No, it is not wrong, it's a completly different medal, although the confussion can be understood since their names are so similar. The general in the picture is wearing the 1.st type Officerscross of the House-order of Oranje-Nassau. The order you refer to is the order of Oranje-Nassau. The difference in these orders is the institution that gives them away. The house-order is given out by the royal family, whilst the order is given out by the state, and although this order has a crown the royal family does not have a say in who is awarded. The order of Oranje-Nassau has not changed, whilst the House-order has. Kind regards, Laurentius not to be difficult, but its the house order of Oranje and the Order of Oranje-Nassau, right?
laurentius Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Dear David M Yes, that would be correct. Kind regards, Laurentius
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