General Bruno von Kern medal ID

[Alex K]

Hi, assistance please if possible, this image from Wiki, shows von Kern, does anyone recognise the decoration indicated, It is familiar and feel I should know it but the brains not working, and I cant find it in my references.

 

Any help appreciated

 

regards

 

Alex K

[ixhs]

dutch?

[laurentius]

Dear Alex K

As ixhs said it looked like a dutch medal so I went on a small internetsearch and I think that I've found the medal. It's the officerscross of the Dutch house-order of Oranje-Nassau, I'll add a picture for you.

Kind regards, Laurentius

[Herman]

Laurentius is correct.  It's the first type that existed till 1910ish.

 

Regards

Herman 

[Alex K]

Hi all, thanks for the information, I must admit I hadn't thought of the Netherlands but German.

 

regards

Alex

[David M]

22 hours ago, laurentius said:

Dear Alex K

As ixhs said it looked like a dutch medal so I went on a small internetsearch and I think that I've found the medal. It's the officerscross of the Dutch house-order of Oranje-Nassau, I'll add a picture for you.

Kind regards, Laurentius

So this site is wrong? https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_van_Oranje-Nassau#De_versierselen

it says the decorations did not vary since the foundation of the order

 

To me it looks more like this

 

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huisorde_van_Oranje#De_Huisorde_bij_zijn_instelling_in_1905_en_de_later_ingestelde_graden

[laurentius]

Dear David M

No, it is not wrong, it's a completly different medal, although the confussion can be understood since their names are so similar. The general in the picture is wearing the 1.st type Officerscross of the House-order of Oranje-Nassau. The order you refer to is the order of Oranje-Nassau. The difference in these orders is the institution that gives them away. The house-order is given out by the royal family, whilst the order is given out by the state, and although this order has a crown the royal family does not have a say in who is awarded. The order of Oranje-Nassau has not changed, whilst the House-order has.

Kind regards, Laurentius

[VtwinVince]

Great photo of a very interesting medal bar.

[Alex K]

Hi all, He's actually wearing this, found it on a auction hause site

 

regards

 

Alex

 

since the medal bar has been mentioned, attached, to me they look like Mecklenburg decorations, or am I wrong.

 

 

[dedehansen]

Hi Alex,

 

the cross is from Anhalt, Friedrich-Kreuz am Bande für Kämpfer OEK 81

 

Regards

Andreas

[laurentius]

Dear alex

The medal after the BMVO4x is a Hessian medal for bravery, OEK 884

Kind regards, Laurentius

[Alex K]

Hi Thanks for that, with regards to the medal after the BMVO4X, I was basing on the look of the ribbon, difficult to see but it appears to have multiple stripes similar to the Meck, mvk, but I bow to superior knowledge

 

regards

[David M]

5 hours ago, laurentius said:

Dear David M

No, it is not wrong, it's a completly different medal, although the confussion can be understood since their names are so similar. The general in the picture is wearing the 1.st type Officerscross of the House-order of Oranje-Nassau. The order you refer to is the order of Oranje-Nassau. The difference in these orders is the institution that gives them away. The house-order is given out by the royal family, whilst the order is given out by the state, and although this order has a crown the royal family does not have a say in who is awarded. The order of Oranje-Nassau has not changed, whilst the House-order has.

Kind regards, Laurentius

not to be difficult, but its the house order of Oranje and the Order of Oranje-Nassau, right?

[laurentius]

Dear David M

Yes, that would be correct.

Kind regards, Laurentius