Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 What's this award of Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Bit of a puzzler. The fuzziness of the image doesn't help. The most likely would seem to be the Flotten-Kriegsabzeichen (High Seas Fleet insignia), but it lacks the eagle/swastika on top, so that's out. Through a process of elimination, the only thing left is the Bandenkampfabzeichen (Partisan insignia), which seems extremely unlikely for a naval officer of this seniority. I'm looking forward to input from one of our experts to set me straight. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 cut-out naval wound badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Eric Stahlhut said: cut-out naval wound badge? How does a cut-out naval wound badge look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 he was wounded whilst serving as captain of the sms konigsberg http://ww1blog.osborneink.com/?tag=naval-combat&paged=12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Thank you guys. Would you say the wound badge is the black or silver version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Hi, I am actually sceptical that it is either. On second thoughts.... Here is a black one. GreyC Edited January 21, 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Looks more like the partisan insignia but how would he get it. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hi Paul, that echos my thoughts. Maybe not Russia but Greece/Balkans? GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Unless he was involved in the Naval planning of an anti-partisan offensive, that could explain the award. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Looff wasn't active in WW2. He retired in 1922. And he was Placed at the disposal of the Kriegsmarine without being mobilised on 24 May 1939. I highly doubt he would get the anti-partisan badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Although not mobilised could he be a deskwallah involved in planning? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 I doubt it. I think the naval wound badge makes the most sense. He was wounded in WW1 after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Could it be one of those badges distributed for the paticipants of the early NSDAP get-togethers that were allowed to be worn on the uniforms during early Wehrmacht/Kriegsmarine times? GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 If anyone cares, the badge below the EK1 looks like the Kolonialabzeichen "Elephant" Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Macleod Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It's a Naval Wound Badge, IMO. It was one of the pieces auctioned off earlier in 2018 with one of his uniforms and some of his decorations. BTW, the picture above has been changed from the original that also shows his Party Badge. See below for higher resolution original. Here's one more of him showing the same badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Great! I can see that is the naval wound badge in gold? Is it confirmed his? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Macleod Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kriegsmarine Admiral said: Great! I can see that is the naval wound badge in gold? Is it confirmed his? Thanks It came as a grouping with the medals corresponding to those won by Looff, ribbon bar, belt buckle and a dress jacket tagged to him. The wound badge was of the post war variety. It is impossible to confirm with any degree of certainty any unnamed medals as belonging to any particular individual. In that respect, this one is no different- it has been described as that which belonged to him but that's where the facts end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.F. Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Does the Crown Order on this medal bar have the 50 year device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Dear P.F. Yes, it looks like a device for 50 years, which he didn' t have, nor do I think the medalbar belonged to him. Although the combination is the same as the one on the picture, there is a clear difference in ribbonfolds and space between the medals. I highly doubt it's his bar. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.F. Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, laurentius said: Dear P.F. Yes, it looks like a device for 50 years, which he didn' t have, nor do I think the medalbar belonged to him. Although the combination is the same as the one on the picture, there is a clear difference in ribbonfolds and space between the medals. I highly doubt it's his bar. Kind regards, Laurentius I have similar suspicions. This bar and the one in the photo are definitely two different medal bars. This is supposedly Looff's medal bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Dear P.F. Although this medalbar comes much closer, I'm still suspicious. Just look at the campaignspanges on the picture in the first post and the campaignspanges in the picture you supplied, there is clearly a difference. In the photograph they are layered like bricks, and in the picture they are just atop eachother. The bar might nonetheless still be original, since I don't think it's a unique combination. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 24/01/2019 at 01:33, laurentius said: Just look at the campaignspanges on the picture in the first post and the campaignspanges in the picture you supplied, there is clearly a difference. In the photograph they are layered like bricks, and in the picture they are just atop each other. I've been carefully looking at the ribbon wrappings, the medal mounting and overlapping. I think the photo in post 17 and the same medal bar in post 22 are same, however Laurentius is correct about the campaign spanges. They have been moved. The only explanation I can think of is that they were realigned sometime after the photo was taken. Either by the Looff, his tailor or more likely by a collector who thought they were not symmetrical over the China medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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