Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Hello Gentlemen,as the most of you may have noticed, my favorite soviet award is the ORB. I try to study this order as good as i can and try to see as much ORB?s as possible. So i would appreciate, if you post some (or better all) of your Red Banners for my (and hopefully others) enjoyment.I?ll start off with my very first ORB, a Type 4, researched to a Colonel of Aviation, Pavel Ivanovich Yenbekov, already posted on this forum, but though, its nice:Show me yours!!! Thanks for lookingGerd
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) Nice thread. I like this one too. Will add a few.My first, just a solo, undocumented, and research awaits (yes, I feel I have the duty to TRY to research even single RBs! -- though as a low priority).Type 4, 381808. Edited April 26, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 My latest, the one from the Lomtatidze grouphttp://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6830Type 2, variety 2 - 61232It has suffered through some extensive -- and clumsy -- repairs, I fear. Still, I await the research.
Stogieman Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Good Morning Ed! Nice screwback, I think there's no shame in pieces that these fellows had repaired. I'll take the honest wear & tear of daily use and the subsequent repairs anyday!
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 Lovely, Ed. Thanks for posting. I also research all my single ORB?s, also the undocumented ones.And i also don?t mind, when an Order has some repairs. Here is my screwback with the typical damage above Hammer&Sickel, it looks like it was converted and re-converted to suspension at some time, but they did a terrific job and its really hard to see. That doesn?t make it any less valuable for me, as its also researched and i can even put a face to it. This was awarded to Anti-Aircraft Colonel Khariton Gordeevich Shashel? and the citation read like follows:(Translation friendly provided from Rick Research)"In the division {Soviet artillery unit term here = battalion} since August 1941, obtained excellent military training and military readiness.He carried out his military tasks for defense of railway bridges over the River Don in the area around Lizhka, with the battalion repelling waves of massed enemy aerial attacks. Showing personal leadership in continuously suppressing enemy air attacks regardless of losses, thanks to correct arrangements within his means and personal leadership, the battalion was able to repel all attacks and protect important defensive objects.Comrade Shashel' 's personal example and enthusiasm place his personal leadership among the highest heroic advances.In his military service at anti-aircraft defense points, the battalion shot down 9 and hit 7 enemy aircraft. Comrade Shashel' is devoted to affairs of the Party of Lenin and Stalin and the Socialist Homeland. For displaying personal courage and heroism and personal leadership in repelling enemy air raids, he deserves to be decorated with the Order of the Red Banner.Chief of Western Front Anti-Aircraft Branch, Colonel-General "Gromadin"Concur, Chief of Western Front A-A Branch Military Council, Major General "Orlov" "Keep them coming....
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Even more worn, but even more special. From the Lavrinovich group:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2326 RSFSR Red Banner, type 1, 10825 (matching-numbered screw-plate, though repaired [too]).(Hard to see the number hiding up there. My Epson 1660 does not like things with long posts. Need to drill a hole in the glass plate. )
Paul R Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Here are mine thus far. About 99 percent of my stuff came from Igor in the early 90s! I got it at a good price because some of the enamal was replaced or fixed.Here is my screw back example
Paul R Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Here is one with a suspension. Does not belong to a grouping... :-(Number: 162 139
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 And another one, mounted, from my "group-that-probably-isn't-a-group". I think of it as a set of singles stuck together. (The price was low anyway.)Type 4, 440621See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2456
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 And another one mounted, this one halal, from the Kravchenko group, see:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207Type 4, 537880
Paul R Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 And finally, my number two... Sorry about breaking into your posting, Ed. That is a beautiful bar! I like the Afgan Border medal! (I hope that I have correctly IDed that one)
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 Nice, guys. Paul, whats the number on the first one you have posted? Did you reseach the screwback or any other of them?Thanks for the pics, everyone
Paul R Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Hi Gerd,The number is 68,994. I have not researched any of them... I want to research the screw back one though!
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 Ohhhhhh You guys snuck in other pictures, while i was posting. @Paul: RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH
Ed_Haynes Posted April 26, 2006 Posted April 26, 2006 Sorry about breaking into your posting, Ed. No problem at all. In fact, I like the way that our conversational enthusiasm overlaps and interwines.That is a beautiful bar! I like the Afgan Border medal! (I hope that I have correctly IDed that one)Yes, that is it. While there is MUCH variability on the proper ribbon. This one is, I think incorrect, but seems to have been more popular among Soviet recipients. It was this medal -- and some of the higher trinkets too -- that attracted my attention. While my "head" tells me "fake", my "heart" wants it otherwise. There is a certain plausibility to the group, but only if he was a fairly senior KGB border type (and, therefore, not a candidate for easy research -- though I have tried, and come up empty -- it remains on my "open research" list with The Master).
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 Hi Gerd,The number is 68,994. I have not researched any of them... I want to research the screw back one though!Hi Paul,my bad, i meant the second one, you posted. That is definately a Type 3 with a 1XX thousand serialnumber, but i can?t see the whole number. You should definately research more of them. The Type 3 is very promising and the 2nd award also in my opinion. Unfortunately the archives don?t get better, so its time now! Lovely stuff, gentlemen. I am drooling Gerd
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 Ed, i just love the Kravchenko-group. When it was for sale, i didn?t had the funds to purchase it, but i was glad to see, it went in your collection
Gerd Becker Posted April 26, 2006 Author Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) Paul, your 2nd award is one of a few observed Type 3 ORB?s which number falls into the serialnumber-range of a later variation. I hope, our new member MONDVOR can confirm this. If i am right, thats a really nice find!!!Gerd Edited April 26, 2006 by Gerd Becker
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